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DavidSydney63 07-18-2013 09:57 PM

Question about pattern for intricate lace
 
I've decided to tackle, on fingering yarn, a lace shawl. It's actually called "Marigold". The pattern just doesn't make sense:

Cast on 14 sts. Knit 1 row. Proceed:-

1st row: K3, WI.fwd, K2tog, K4. WI.fwd. K2tog. WI.fwd. K3
2nd row: WI.fwd, K2tog, K1. WI.fwd. K2tog. WI.fwd. K4. K2tog. WI.fwd. K4

Wi.fwd is explained:

Pass yarn forward as if for purling. Insert point of the right needle into the next 2 sts on the left needle and carrying the wool over and round the point of the right hand needle knit the 2 sts together. The wool is now at the back ready for a knit stitch.

My problem is that I don't have enough sts left to finish the first row ... I understand that WI.fwd does in fact knit two together and create another stitch simultaneously ... any ideas?

GrumpyGramma 07-18-2013 10:52 PM

How many stitches short are you? The 1st row came out right for me, I cast on the 14 sts and worked as instructed. For row 2, where it says WI.fwd. K4. are you supposed to WI.fwd. and then just knit 4 as normal or do the WI.fwd. before each of the 4 knits?

Dclutterchique 07-19-2013 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidSydney63 (Post 1381617)
I've decided to tackle, on fingering yarn, a lace shawl. It's actually called "Marigold". The pattern just doesn't make sense:

Cast on 14 sts. Knit 1 row. Proceed:-

1st row: K3, WI.fwd, K2tog, K4. WI.fwd. K2tog. WI.fwd. K3
2nd row: WI.fwd, K2tog, K1. WI.fwd. K2tog. WI.fwd. K4. K2tog. WI.fwd. K4

Wi.fwd is explained:

Pass yarn forward as if for purling. Insert point of the right needle into the next 2 sts on the left needle and carrying the wool over and round the point of the right hand needle knit the 2 sts together. The wool is now at the back ready for a knit stitch.

My problem is that I don't have enough sts left to finish the first row ... I understand that WI.fwd does in fact knit two together and create another stitch simultaneously ... any ideas?

I think the problem is the explanation was over helpful.

The "Pass yarn forward as if for purling" is the instruction for the Wl.fwd, but the "Insert point of the right needle ..." is the instruction for the K2tog. So it's easy to think, from those instructions, that one should do a K2tog as part of the Wl.fwd and then do another K2tog.

I presume you are working from a very vintage pattern because it refers to wool, not yarn, and what looks like an upper case 'I' is a lower case 'L' originally done on a manual typewriter.

salmonmac 07-19-2013 04:55 AM

I agree. You could just write the first row as:

1st row: K3, yo, K2tog, K4. yo, K2tog. yo, K3

I see a couple of gorgeous Marigold lace shawls. Can you link us to a picture of ythe one you're doing?

DavidSydney63 07-19-2013 05:29 AM

Ah, ha!

Now that makes sense - thanks to one and all for providing the solution. I kind of thought it was over-explained!

I'll give it another go, it's a delightful looking pattern. For sure.

DavidSydney63 07-19-2013 05:33 AM

to answer Salmonmac's question, it's a free (that is copyright free) pattern from www.antiquepatternlibrary.org - and it's the one called Beehive Shawls, if you click on "catalog" (along the top of the web page, then navigate down to the Bs).

The Beehive Shawls pattern book has the gorgeous spinning wheel on the front page with the fingering yarn lace work hanging decoratively over it.

DavidSydney63 07-19-2013 05:56 AM

I'm so excited - this is now working beautifully - except that with the fingering yarn and tiny needles it's like knitting using Barbie's skis.

GrumpyGramma 07-19-2013 10:06 AM

Thanks for the link, those are some really beautiful shawls. Which page has the Marigold illustration? I'm having a hard time locating it.

DavidSydney63 07-19-2013 06:22 PM

If you look on the page with the pattern, all of them have a reference to the related picture ...


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