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finnertones 06-22-2007 06:56 PM

DPNs Trouble...the ladder
 
I am at my wit's end. I have tried and failed three times to knit without a ladder forming between the first and last stich using DPNs. I have looked at all of the help sites and have knit tightly between needles but they still form. It seems as though while I am knitting the rest of the work the hanging needles pull my completed work and tighten it so that there is slack where there once was none. I thought of clipping my work together with a little "claw" hair clip to support it while I knit but I thought I'd post a message here first. Any suggestions? I have already had to rip my work several times...I even knit the first couple of rounds on straight needles then transfered it to DPNs but I must have flipped the work because afterwards I was knitting on the wrong side so I had to purl where I wanted the knit stich to show. Argh!!!
Any suggestions?

Hollie:shrug:

Braden 06-22-2007 07:00 PM

The first stitch of each needle should be pulled very tightly. Mostly it comes with practice, but you will get better! It's most common when it's your first time with DPN's, and it happens to the best of us.

Rorshach 06-22-2007 07:10 PM

What I do is to knit tight the first couple of stitches, as the stitch you're working on depends on the tension of the stitch before it. Though don't knit it so tight that you can't get yer needle through.

mshelton 06-22-2007 07:21 PM

Rotating the stitches between the DPNs will keep the ladder from forming. Knit to the end of the DPN and then knit a couple from the next DPN too --for a complete circle. I move a couple of stitches every few rows. Just use stitch markers if you need too and reorganize by sliding the stitches around when you need to go to the next step and want the stitches in the correct order and number.

MAmaDawn 06-22-2007 08:58 PM

I do like Mshelton said and I knit them tighter than the others and also don't start a new neddle with a purl....

Calamintha 06-22-2007 09:58 PM

The absolute best advice I can give you is to switch to using 2 circular needles. I tried all the tricks that were supposed to eliminate ladders and nothing worked for me. When I did my first pair of socks on 2 circs I was amazed at how professional they looked because there were no gaps and no ladders! There is a video on this site on how to knit small diameters with 2 circs if you haven't tried it before.

finnertones 06-22-2007 11:56 PM

Interesting! I have seen this but haven't tried it myself. I love circular needles though. I knit my baby's first hat no problem using circulars but thought I'd try the DPNs to advance my experience. It isn't working well.

Thanks!

Hollie

tarrentella 06-23-2007 10:38 AM

I never realy had this probelm with ladders, but i am a tight knitter anyway. I found that it helps not only to pull the first stitch on the needle tight, but the second stitch, i dont know why but that seemed to sort of 'lock in' the tension.

Calamintha 06-23-2007 01:58 PM

I did my first pair of socks on dpns and did not enjoy it at all. It was actually a couple of years before I made another attempt and the second time I decided to try the 2 circ method. Boy, what a difference! I actually enjoyed it and the socks looked great. There is a pretty good photo tutorial on how to get started below:

http://www.az.com/~andrade/knit/twocirculars.html

You can use this method in place of any method that calls for dpns. I don't know whether you are making socks or something else but the book Sensational Knitted Socks gives directions for doing all the patterns with 2 circs in addition to dpns.

finnertones 06-23-2007 04:46 PM

What a difference the yarn makes!
 
I thought that I'd practice a little using some acrylic yarn...wow...I had NO trouble with the DPNs at all. No ladder, no prob. I was trying to use an angora/merino yarn and I guess that it is more slippery than the acrylic. I guess the good news is I am not completely incompetent but the bad news is this yarn is a problem for the pattern I got it for. I'll definitely check out that link about using two circular needles. Thanks!


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