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Ivy19 05-04-2008 05:02 PM

HELP! Reading a pattern
Another newbie question: from a pattern in the (supposedly) "very easy" Vogue pattern book for an "easy striped pullover." (Notice the abundance of "easy's???") Anyway, in neck shaping with 104 stitches, the pattern says to "work 36 sts, join 2nd ball of yarn and bind off center 32 sts, work to end. Working both sides at once, purl 1 row"

So, I'm thrown off by the "work to end" since I'll have 36 sts left after binding off the center 32 . . . and I have no idea how to "work both sides at once"

Any help is appreciated. ("easy" my foot!):wink: :wink:

Sheri 05-04-2008 05:27 PM

It just means that you will be working your shoulders separately but at the same time .... meaning working the left end and working the right end, because the middle section that fits your neck is bound off. Make sense? If not there are numerous helpful talented gals who will come to the rescue.

Ivy19 05-04-2008 05:42 PM

Hi Sheri, thanks for your reply. So I'm working along, I knit 36 stitches, then I bind off 32 stitches and then I knit the remaining 36 stitches, right? Then the next row is a purl row, and I understand that the center is already bound off. So I just purl both sides of the center - but not "at once????" Sorry if I'm being a little thick . . . Ivy

Sheri 05-04-2008 06:12 PM

Anyway, in neck shaping with 104 stitches, the pattern says to "work 36 sts, join 2nd ball of yarn and bind off center 32 sts, work to end. Working both sides at once, purl 1 row"

Just do what it says ..... work 36 stitches and add a new ball of yarn WHICH will be the yarn you use to do the bind off which will end up putting that working yarn on one shoulder and the first ball of yarn on the other shoulder because you can't jump the bind off after you've bound it off. So it says to bind off and then finish that row in pattern after the bind off .... NOW purl that section and then with first ball of yarn not second ball purl that other side. They just want you to MAKE sure you do the same thing on both sides of the bind off .

Ivy19 05-04-2008 06:20 PM

Ohh, I get it! Now if you could just write all the patterns . . . Thanks!

suzeeq 05-04-2008 06:23 PM

It's easy enough to skip over part of the instructions. That one did say `join 2nd ball of yarn'.... That's a clue that you'll be working with 2 strands of yarn and knitting each shoulder with each one of them.

Ivy19 05-04-2008 07:30 PM

Yeah, if it had just said "work 36 sts, join 2nd ball of yarn AND USING THE NEW YARN bind off center 32 sts, work to end WITH 2ND YARN. Then, WORK EACH SIDE WITH SEPARATE YARNS, purl 1 row"

It's sort of like learning a new language, isn't it? I'm sure it will make sense as I become more experienced, but in the meantime, it's great to have resources like this forum to turn to.

suzeeq 05-04-2008 08:08 PM

Well, it kind of did say that....


work 36 sts, join 2nd ball of yarn and bind off center 32 sts, work to end. Working both sides at once, purl 1 row
After you work 36 sts, you join the 2nd ball of yarn, then the next instruction is to BO 32. So following that, you would then BO with the new yarn, and finish the row with it. Work both sides at once means to work them with separate yarn.

Ivy19 05-04-2008 08:35 PM

Actually, my first project was something called the 8 Hour Baby Blanket, in which you knit with 2 different strands of yarn. So in this pattern, when it said, "join 2nd ball," I thought it meant for you to join another ball and continue with the 2 strands from that point on.

It's just a newbie interpretation. Kind of like new English learners trying to figure out sentences like: "The bandage was wound around the wound" or "They were too close to the door to close it." Only makes sense if you've been at it for awhile. That's why folks like you are so special; you take your time to help new learners like me. Thanks.

Sheri 05-04-2008 10:11 PM

I've knit for only a few years and am now only expanding to sweaters and socks ... so don't fret I get what you mean. I think for me personally I was scared I'd do it wrong and then not be able to correct it .... so now when the pattern is tricky and I know it will be hard for me to pick up stitches that I might drop I just use a life line and the stress is gone. A lifeline is embroidery floss, dental floss or fingerweight yarn threaded into a big eyed needle and running the yarn through the loops while they are on the needle. You'll find out if you use this process that some rows are better to use a lifeline on than others and that only comes with trial and error I think.
Hint: Suzeeq is a real expert at these things ... for heavens sake she's been knitting since the dawn of time LOLOLOL ....

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