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craftymomma 12-07-2008 05:46 PM

Getting very frustrated here! Please help...
 
Ok, i taught myself to knit without much hinderance, but for some reason crochet is not coming as easily to me (i would have thought it had been the other way around)... anyway, I know the basic stitch patterns like single crochet, double crochet, half double crochet, etc but i am having trouble incorporating them in a pattern..

For instance, I am working on a bootie pattern (with various sizes hence the different #'s in the parentheses), and it is as follows:

Ch (9,11,12,14). Make 3 sc in 2nd ch from hk. Sc (3,4,4,5). Hdc 1. Dc(2,3,4,5). Make 7 dc in last ch.

Ok, so I have figured out that I need to start by making a chain with 11 stitches (i am making the 2nd size) and that i need to go into my 2nd chain from the hook to start my single crochet, but thats when I start getting confused with the directions.. it says make 3 sc, so do I make all 3 sc in that one stitch (the 2nd ch from hk)?? Or make a sc and continue to the next stitch and so on. I am also confused as to whether the pattern is stating to make 3 single crochet (if making the first size) and then an additional (3,4,4,5) sc...ugh.. maybe I should stick with knitting, at least those patterns are straight forward..

Is crochet like knitting in that you work stitch to stitch or can you keep crocheting in the same stitch over and over ???


Can anyone help me? Or am i too confusing with my questions??

Becky Morgan 12-07-2008 06:16 PM

Yes, you can crochet multiple times into one stitch. (Actually, you can knit/purl into a stitch more than once, too.) A lot of the most common crochet patterns, like the eternal granny square, depend on multiple stitches in one chain, space, stitch or what have you. So yes, you do make three single crochets in one chain stitch, then make a single crochet in each of the next four chain stitches (I'm assuming you're making the second size, as you said), half double crochet in one chain stitch, double crochet in each of the next two chain stitches, and put seven double crochet into the last chain stitch. That looks like the bootie sole to me, so donb't be surprised if the pattern tells you to work down the other side of the starting chain. By putting a bunch of stitches in one spot, you make the work round out. The scs are probably the heel and the dcs are most likely the toe. If you just do it, you'll see the pattern come out.

OffJumpsJack 12-10-2008 10:12 AM

Crochet vs. Knitting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craftymomma (Post 1181569)
I am working on a bootie pattern (with various sizes hence the different #'s in the parentheses), and it is as follows:

Ch (9,11,12,14). Make 3 sc in 2nd ch from hk. Sc (3,4,4,5). Hdc 1. Dc(2,3,4,5). Make 7 dc in last ch.

Ok, so I have figured out that I need to start by making a chain with 11 stitches (i am making the 2nd size) and that i need to go into my 2nd chain from the hook to start my single crochet, but thats when I start getting confused with the directions....

Is crochet like knitting in that you work stitch to stitch or can you keep crocheting in the same stitch?

CraftyMomma, this is one big way in which knitting is different than crochet; each stitch is like a pickup and bind off (of the previous stitches*) leaving only one loop on the hook. As Becky Morgan said, you can work multiple stitches in a single stitch (and also true in knitting). I am accustomed to seeing commas use to separate stitch by stitch in patterns both for knit and crochet; here it appears periods are used

Ch (9,11,12,14). Make 3 sc in 2nd ch from hk. Sc (3,4,4,5). Hdc 1. Dc(2,3,4,5). Make 7 dc in last ch.

Lets break it down:

You got the chain 11 right for the second size.

Make 3 sc in 2nd ch from hk. This is an increase (and shaping the heal); all 3 sc go in the same chain, the 2nd ch from hk. (You now have 9 ch left to work).

Sc (3,4,4,5). This means you single crochet in each of the next 4 stitches; think of it as like "k(3,4,4,5)" (9-4 = 5 ch remain).

Hdc 1. Crochet has stitches of different heights so this is like using a short row for shaping in knit; the Hdc is one size taller than a sc. (4 ch remain).

Dc(2,3,4,5). As before this is similar to a K3 for your size so DC in each of the next 3 stitches. (DC is one step taller than the hdc; 1 ch remain).

Make 7 dc in last ch. This is another increase (and shaping the toe); all 7 dc in the last ch.

This does look like the center of the sole of the bootie, so you are working in the round (or oblong if you want). I would expect the next instructions to continue in the back side of the starting chain.
Dc(2,3,4,5). Hdc 1. Sc (3,4,4,5).
And maybe place marker. The shape is oblong but the toe of the sole would be wider than the heal (an elongated egg shaped) so you may not need to place a marker for the end of the first round.

Let us know how you progress with this project. Good luck. Crossed Fingers

--Jack :guyknitting:


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