MMario - thanks
I wasn't shooting for a final pattern, I may try that tomorrow, just to see if the idea would work. Thanks for the help.
I am looking forward to the short row method. I tried to work that out on the way home tonight. With over a hour commute it gives a lot of time to work ideas out. However, I haven't worked the short row out.
BTW - Real men wear kilts and are not afraid to knit LACE or is it that real men knit lace and are not afraid to wear kilts?