thank yous o much for replying you two
and yes the smaller needle is for the ribbing so I did the swatch with the larger needle.
Oh and usually I do see where it's written which size should be used for the gauge, but this pattern did not.
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Gauge: 4 Stitches = 1 Inch, 6 Rows = 1 Inch
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that is all it said.. thanks for you help once again:D