I had already gone to Joann's and they are $69.99 with the 40% discount you get them for about incl. tx $45.00
The ones on Ebay are older needles that start at size 5 and some even at 6. You end up paying about the same as Joann's or more with shipping, plus at times some needles or cables are missing. I guess you're right Joaan's at the end is the better deal, and you get the needles starting at size 2. I tried Ebay but I guess most of you are bidding against me lol. So I finally quit.