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Old 11-20-2010, 05:22 PM   #1
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pattern resize question
I still haven't attached sleeves before, so this might be a silly question.

I started a sweater and it came out too big but I liked the gauge so I'm making a size medium instead of an XL, but what I'm doing is still following the length measurements for the XL, but keeping everything else with the medium. I am concerned now that the sleeves won't set in properly, though, when I get to that point, and wondering if I need to make a larger size sleeve to accommodate the larger armhole (the next size up sleeve ends with 3 sts more at the seaming point, or 6 sts more for the next size, gauge is 3-1/2 sts to inch.) The medium has you work the armhole until it's 9-1/2 inches, but I worked it to 10-1/4 inches according to the XL, so we're only talking 3/4 of an inch (but on each side, I guess?) so wasn't sure if that would line up to the armhole opening still. (I will do the same bind off numbers on the sleeves I did for the armhole shaping, at least that part I know will be okay ) In theory, I figure I should because if the armhole is 10-1/4 inches on front and back, that's 20-1/2 inches, so if I multiple my gauge by 20-1/2, that comes to 71.75 total for seaming, but need to add 10 to that for the shaping bind off, so that would be 82 and the size XL sleeve ends with 83...... Is that how that works, though? It sounds logical, just haven't done this before....

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Old 11-20-2010, 06:16 PM   #2
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You're correct to make the length the same as for the XL, so follow those measurements for the sleeve too. Use the same armhole shaping you did for the body, just make sure you do the sleeve cap to 10" too. You don't have to double the measurement.
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Thank you! I just want to make sure I understand, though, you're saying don't do the wider sleeve cap to match the 10-1/4 or do? The sleeve is just straight garter, CO X stitches, do increases until it's X stitches, work until it's X inches long, so what I'm unsure on is the width of the sleeve cap, do I need to make that the XL width to match the armholes since I made them longer? The armhole shaping was just BO x sts at beginning of next 2 rows, that's it, so the sleeve ends with BO X sts at beginning of next 2 rows and bind off.
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The armhole length is 10", so you work the length of the sleeve cap to match that from the underarm. The bound off sts at the underarm should be the same number as you bind off for the front and back, the stitches that are left determines the width, and if you used the number for the Med, then they should be the right size. There should be more rows after BO at the beg of next 2 rows for the underarm. The sleeve doesn't end there does it?

Is the pattern online? Either you're misunderstanding the pattern or it's written differently than normal. Even a picture would be useful.
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Old 11-21-2010, 01:43 AM   #5
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Thanks again. I think I'm just making it more complicated (as usual) It's the same sweater as you were helping me with the neck edge decreases for, from a book, so can't post pattern:



Basically my concern is that since the armhole length is 10-1/4 inches, as instructed for the size XL, if I follow the stitch count for the medium sleeve, then the width of the sleeve at the cap will not be wide enough to cover the added length of the armholes.

In other words, if I'm understanding the seaming correctly, if the armhole is 10-1/4 inches long and I'm getting 3-1/2 sts to the inch, that's approximately 36 stitches long on both front and back (of course it's rows, but to try to get an idea for the sleeves) so, the real question is: doesn't the final stitch count at the sleeve cap need to be close to 72 inches in order to match the longer armhole? If I follow the medium sleeve instructions, after matching the bind offs to the armhole shaping, I will wind up with 67, which would be for a 9-1/2 inch armhole, if I follow the XL instructions, I will wind up with 73, which is intended for the 10-1/4.

Thanks so much again, sorry to make it more difficult. I'm just trying to understand if the sleeve cap width needs to match the armhole length, which in my head, I would think it should, and if so, then, yes, I need to make the XL sleeve.
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Okay, so it's a drop shoulder sleeve, so there's no real shaping except binding off the underarm sts. Then yes, you should have around 70 sts at the top of the sleeve. You can increase more sts so that you have about that amount after you BO at the underarm. You only need an extra 4 sts so you can add the incs in the part where it says 'knit for x inches'.
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