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Old 02-20-2011, 02:31 PM   #1
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Sleeves in the round--help!!
I am working on the Samhain Hares tee from Yarn Forward magazine. It is worked body first in the round. Stitches are held on scrap yarn and worked after the body. I have now reached the point where I need to do the sleeves and I can't really figure out how to get started with it. The pattern says:
"Transfer held sts of one sleeve to dpn. Pick up and knit 10 sts from underarm, placing a marker after 5 sts. K 1 round." After this, short rows are worked.

Now, what is confusing me is that I cannot use dpns AT ALL. I do magic loop instead. So....the problem is figuring out which direction to have my magic loop needle and which way to place the stitches onto it. And then how to divide them for magic loop. Also, does the marker indicate the beginning of the round? I'm thinking if i am working in magic loop I will need to have the 10 picked up stitches divided evenly over both needles....? Help!

I hope someone can make this clear for me, as I am so close to having this project finished, it's driving me crazy!
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Old 02-20-2011, 02:45 PM   #2
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Just to clarify.... have you knit the front and back and joined the shoulders and now are going to work short row cap sleeve, continuing the sleeve in the round to the cuff edge? Or have you already knit the sleeve
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"Transfer held sts of one sleeve to dpn.
and somehow you are joining the sleeve to the shirt to continue the yoke area? Explain what is going on a little more. Please.
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Old 02-20-2011, 02:51 PM   #3
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Is the sweater worked top down or bottom up?
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Old 02-20-2011, 02:53 PM   #4
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Jan I looked the pattern up on Ravelry and it is top down. Good thing to know.
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Old 02-20-2011, 03:05 PM   #5
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I get how it is worked now. But if you are working short rows you are really working flat and not in the round. I've just been doing a sleeve with a short row cap (totally different set up, but still short rows) and I am using dpns to work the short rows, I was wondering if a person could do short rows on a ML needle. Probably, but I have never tried it.

The stitches you had on the holder are the main part of the sleeve and the 10 you pick up are at the underarm, so right in the middle of those 10 stitches will be the very middle of the underarm. When you get to the point where you are actually working in the round that point would be the beginning of the round. If the short rows are worked from that center point (under the arm)back around to the center point again, I would assume you want to put all those stitches on your long needle and then pinch it to divide into two sections at the center of where the shoulder would be. I'm not exactly sure how short rows will work when you aren't working around, but back and forth, but give it a try. I know it works over dpns. Let us know if you figure it out.
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Old 02-20-2011, 03:38 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by MerigoldinWA View Post
I was wondering if a person could do short rows on a ML needle. Probably, but I have never tried it.
I don't know how this pattern is done, but yes, short rows can be done in the round. You still have to knit flat while it's still on the needles for the short row part, but the pick up is done in the round. I just did it for some socks and I've done it on a sweater to raise the back neck. I was using circular needles, but not ML. Her pattern may direct her, but I use this method.
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Old 02-20-2011, 04:16 PM   #7
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I will just quote an example of how the short row part is phrased

"k to 12 sts before marker, w&t
p to 12 sts before marker, w&t"

you then do the same, but to 16 and then 20 sts before the marker.
It then says:

"next rnd: k all sts, picking up and working wraps together with wrapped sts as you come to them. K around to marker."
then the moss st cuff is done and you cast off.

Is that the typical way these short rows work? It seems odd, like half of the underarm sts are always worked and the other half not...and setting up my sts for ML. I'm not really getting it!

Thanks for all your help so far though!
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It is a short sleeved tee. The yoke is done and the whole body is complete. There are 34 sts held for each sleeve. After picking up as I described, there are 6 short rows and then the pattern says to change tosmaller needles, knit a round, then knit a 6 row cuff in moss stitch.

Does that make sense? This is my first sweater, so it is hard for me to know what is important...
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Oh yes, top down, sorry
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Don't worry about HOW you knit in the round - dpns or magic loop, it doesn't matter. What I do is join my yarn so that I immediately pick up the underarm sts, then knit the sleeve sts off the holder. That gets all your sts on the circ. Then follow the rest of the directions for placing markers and working the short rows.
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