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 05-10-2011, 01:39 PM #1 Debbie1519 1st Leg of the Journey   Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post How to follow pattern with increases I am doing the sleeves of a sweater and my pattern is k5 *P1. K5 Repeat to end of row. My problem is how do I deal with the increase at the beginning and the end of the row? Debbie
 05-10-2011, 02:35 PM #2 RochesterKnitter Turning the Heel   Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 785 Thanks: 6 Thanked 329 Times in 280 Posts Depends on how many increases you are doing. Since your pattern is a multiple of 6, if you are doing 6 increases then add them so they will be equal to your pattern at the end. These are the rs rows: p1 k5 - original pattern p1 k5 inc 1 p1 k5 p1 inc1 p1 k5 p1 k1 inc 1 p1 k5 p1 k2 inc 1 p1 k5 p1 k3 inc 1 p1 k5 p1 k4 inc 1, total of 6 inc which match original pattern p1 k5 p1 k5 Do the same for however many inc the pattern calls for. Last edited by RochesterKnitter : 05-10-2011 at 05:41 PM.
 05-10-2011, 03:02 PM #3 Debbie1519 1st Leg of the Journey   Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post My first row is: k5. *P1. K5 2nd row: Purl These two rows form rib pattern. Increase 1 st. each end of needle on next and every following alt row 8 times more, then every following 4th row 4 times, taking inc. sts. into pat.
 05-10-2011, 03:35 PM #4 suzeeq Knit On!   Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montana Posts: 27,765 Thanks: 160 Thanked 6,457 Times in 6,038 Posts You'll inc on the knit rows, so just do one at the beg and end of the first row and don't worry about the extra sts. Then purl the WS row, no problem there. The next row will inc another st so you would work it like this.... Just knit the first st, inc, k5 (p1, k5) then inc and knit last st. Next RS row, k first st, inc p1, k5 (p1, k5) p1, inc k last st. Next RS row, k first st, inc, k1 p1 k5 (p1, k5) p1, k1 inc k last st. Next - k first st, inc, k2 p1 k5 (p1, k5) p1, k2, inc k last st. Next - k first st, inc, k3 p1 k5 (p1, k5) p1, k2 inc k last st. And so on. n k5. *P1. K5 n 2nd row: Purl These two rows form rib pattern. __________________ sue- knitting heretic
 05-10-2011, 04:19 PM #5 Debbie1519 1st Leg of the Journey   Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post I'm really not sure I am understanding you but I will give it a try. What do you mean by nk5 *p1 k5 n. What does the n mean?
 05-10-2011, 05:00 PM #6 suzeeq Knit On!   Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montana Posts: 27,765 Thanks: 160 Thanked 6,457 Times in 6,038 Posts Ignore the "n k5. *P1. K5 n" part. I copied that to see where I was in the pattern as I replied and forgot to erase it. It's not as hard as you're thinking, you need to keep to the broken rib pattern, which means you k the stitches that were knit on the k5, p1 row previously, and purl that 1 stitch. The edge sts will be hidden in the seam so you can ignore them and just do them as knits on RS, purl on WS. Then inc between the edge st and the next st and do the stitch after that in the pattern. You're expanding the k5 p1 pattern from the center out; since it begins and ends with a k5, the first row after the inc will put a p1 before and after the center sts as well as another inc. Then the next row will add a k1 before and after, the one after that will have 2 knits and a purl before and after, etc. __________________ sue- knitting heretic
 05-10-2011, 04:36 PM #7 Debbie1519 1st Leg of the Journey   Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post I know this may seem silly but I just don't understand. Is there any way to simplify this for me. I started out with 29 sts if this matters.
 05-10-2011, 06:23 PM #8 salmonmac Moderator Mod Squad   Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 11,258 Thanks: 828 Thanked 4,120 Times in 3,765 Posts Hi Debbie, We all think of this differently and at the risk of just confusing you further, here's the way I think of it. Basically, you're increasing one st at each end of the rows for the sleeve. You could increase all in knit sts, but you'd lose the pretty rib pattern, so ideally you'd like to incorporate the rib into the increases. For the moment, just look at the increases on the right side of the sleeve. Try this: first increase row: k1, inc 1, k4 *p1,k5*... 2nd increase row: k1, inc 1, k5 *p1,k5*... 3rd increase row: k1, inc 1, p1, k5 *p1,k5*,,, 4th increase row: k1, inc 1, k1, p1, k5 *p1,k5*,,, 5th increase row: k1, inc 1, k2, p1, k5 *p1,k5*... 6th increase row: k1, inc 1, k3, p1, k5 *p1,k5*... 7th increase row: k1, inc 1, k4, p1, k5 *p1,k5*.. 8th increase row: k1, inc 1, k5, p1, k5 *p1,k5*... 9th increase row: k1, inc 1, p1,k5, p1, k5 *p1,k5*... You'll want to work the increases on the other side of the row so that they mirror these increases. I'm not sure if this will help but it's the way I think of increases in pattern.
 05-10-2011, 07:04 PM #9 Debbie1519 1st Leg of the Journey   Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post yes, I am kind of confused now. Will I lose the rib pattern if I do it the way suzeeq suggested because I thought had it finally. If I have to do it the other way you will have to give me the end of the row also so \i can understand it better.
 05-10-2011, 08:32 PM #10 salmonmac Moderator Mod Squad   Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 11,258 Thanks: 828 Thanked 4,120 Times in 3,765 Posts OK, sorry for adding to the confusion. Our posts crossed because it took me so long to type. We're basically saying the same thing. As long as it makes sense to you as Sue has written it out, follow her directions. You'll see that the pattern is coming out right as you go along. All the best with it and be sure and post a photo of the finished sweater!

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