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Old 05-16-2008, 03:56 PM   #11
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I like Dr. Who but could never come up with the patterns for Adipose and the Ood. (I would like to have a couple of the Adipose to sit next to my Tribble!) And I think that the BBC just needs to rethink what they are doing. They are attacking real fans of the show (and there are at least 2 spinoffs too) for making a pattern of some of their characters. Come on! Let's bite the hand that feeds you!


Here is what is going on now though, looks good and the person who did that patterns is real happy over it- http://www.ravelry.com/discuss/who-knits/195664/1-25
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Old 05-16-2008, 03:58 PM   #12
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While I think the whole thing is a bit silly, she was legally in the wrong. She in no way owns the rights to those characters, while BBC does in fact own the rights to them. Whether she was selling them, the patterns, or distributing the patterns for free, she was violating their legal ownership.

Creative commons simply doesn't apply when you are violating someone else's licensed product.
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Old 05-16-2008, 04:06 PM   #13
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Wow, that certainly seems petty. I mean don't get me wrong, I understand copyrights and their purpose, but, this just seems ridiculous. She never claimed she created the characters, and, I don't see it as being a threat to Dr. Who.

It just kills me when big companies go after the "little" people...Like the RIAA going after kids downloading music while they totally ignored the complaint I submitted when I worked at a cd store...The company I worked for was burning cd's and SELLING them to people as if they were original copies! My old manager was the one doing it and all the money went right into the companies pocket! Oh, the RIAA listened to me, but, they never did a thing about it, it just got swept under the carpet.

Maybe if this woman was making a business of doing this, that would be one thing, but, to go after a fan who did this for enjoyment is a completely different thing.
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Old 05-16-2008, 04:54 PM   #14
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Copyright is a huge issue. According to law, you are not allowed to sell anything that you've made based on someone else's pattern. It's difficult to enforce, and usually isn't, but it is the law. I'm not a designer or a knitting book author, so I think it's much ado about nothing, but maybe I'd think differently if I was.
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Old 05-16-2008, 05:15 PM   #15
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I think it's illegal to sell a Mickey Mouse that hasn't been okayed by the Disney Corp.
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Old 05-16-2008, 05:23 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by Karina View Post
I had a pattern saved on my favourites of a Dr Who robot thing sorry the name escapes me
A Dalek?

I knitted a tote bag with Hello Kitty on it for my niece, which I modified from an existing pattern. I gave it to my niece for her birthday last year. I have it posted on my Ravelry page, and I've been asked by other people for the pattern. I'm very hesitant to post one for this very reason. Hello Kitty isn't mine and I don't want to be held responsible by Sanrio for what someone else does with a pattern I post.
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I think it is all...bull@#$%, I mean....if you are a fan of something...why can't you come up with stuff? If she wasn't selling it...quite frankly I think she has every right (lord know I knit tonnes of Harry Potter stuff....http://www.ravelry.com/projects/Crycket/thomas)

I don't know...I don't like the idea that someone can go after a fan. Not to say I am right...just to say I don't like it....
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Originally Posted by Crycket View Post
I think it is all...bull@#$%, I mean....if you are a fan of something...why can't you come up with stuff? If she wasn't selling it...quite frankly I think she has every right (lord know I knit tonnes of Harry Potter stuff....http://www.ravelry.com/projects/Crycket/thomas)

I don't know...I don't like the idea that someone can go after a fan. Not to say I am right...just to say I don't like it....
I agree, but she ran into trouble by distributing the stuff/patterns.
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See, the way around it is to follow what the one that published Charmed KNits did... called them "inspired by"

also, with the amount of Dr. Who merchandise now becoming available, the BBC probably plans on making and marketing toys and such of those creatures (I have the 9th doctor action figure courtesy of my stepson)
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It does seem a bit silly to me too. But I think that once they're aware of a situation like this, they pretty much have to take action. If they let some things go, it can get really hard to draw the line...

If all they asked for is an injunction so that she stops distributing the patterns, it's not too bad, really. I just hope they won't decide to sue her and ask for damage...
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