Originally Posted by Mike
The Golden breeder I know that bred the high priced show stock paid something like $1000 for semen from a completely tested "best in show" winner. His dog was completely tested.
He still got some dogs back for hip problems. Problems that were so bad they showed up very quickly.
Are you really going to turn a dog over that you've had for 5-8 years, or even 2-3 years???
IMO it's the types of breeders you recommend that have caused the problems. They're the ones who've overbred trying to create that perfect show dog without a care for sticking to what the breeds are supposed to be. The show breeders have ruined countless breeds, so much that certain breeds have a show line and a working line that barely resemble each other.
They bash the BYB in order to line their own pockets when a BYB creating one litter in the life of a dog is not the one flooding the gene pool with a certain set of genes like the professional breeders are.
For a hunting breed I would stay far away from the show ring breeders. That is where you're more likely to end up with the temperament issues
I agree that certain show ring breeders have ruined breeds. I am not talking about show breeders, I am talking Code of Ethics.
Dogs "proven" in show,obedience or agility have a proven temperament.
Also, as stated in my post, a COE breeder has clearances on hips/elbows, heart and eyes on both sire and dam. Of course a bad hip or entropian may pop up in a litter but the odds go way down if all health clearances are done.
Again, you are right, most folks will not part with a dog after 2 or 3 years but if they MUST, say a major life change or disaster makes it impossible for a person to keep their dog, a COE breeder will take the dog back.
COE breeders charge more becuase it costs money to ensure the health of the sire and dam. It costs a lot to whelp a litter properly.
A BYB will breed 2 purebreds and that is where it ends. They will sell to anyone with $$$ without a care as to what the living conditions are (ie, does the landlord know? does the rest of the family know or even want a dog? Will homeowners insurance premiums go up or even be canceled?)
My dog is a rescue. A very poorly bred Rottweiler who has hip and elbow displaysia, entopian (he had surgery for it), and a long coat.
He was originally sold to a naive single mom by a BYB who told her she could "make a fortune in stud fees" because he was a "rare long haired Rottweiler". $$$$$$$$$$ was the root of evil on the part of the BYB AND the buyer.
Personally I think rescue is the way to go, but I understand how anyone can fall in love with a breed. But if you love a breed I feel you should be vigilant on preserving the breed standard for the sake of the breed and not for the $$$