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Old 06-04-2010, 10:20 PM   #1
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Flat charts/circular knitting
Check my thinking here, please. If I have a chart for knitting flat, and I want to knit it in the round, I knit round 1 (RS) as written, and read round 2 from right to left, and reverse the stitches (knit where it purls and vice versa).

Is that right?
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:36 PM   #2
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That is correct generally speaking. There may be some tricky stuff that would add to that, but yes.
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Thanks! I've got a lifeline in and will get started. Care to hint at the tricky parts to watch for?
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When doing row 2 in the round, you would read it from right to left also, and do the sts as they'll be seen from the RS row. So if the box key is to 'knit on RS, purl on WS' then you knit because you're always working on the RS when you knit in the round.
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I think Sue is right. I'm thinking of written directions that have to be done backwards and reversing the stitches.
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:54 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by suzeeq View Post
When doing row 2 in the round, you would read it from right to left also, and do the sts as they'll be seen from the RS row. So if the box key is to 'knit on RS, purl on WS' then you knit because you're always working on the RS when you knit in the round.
Aha!! That was the part that was confusing me as I kept looking at the chart!! (I've only done a tiny bit of chart knitting...actually hate charts, but that's what I have. Probably converting it is a bit ambitious....but how bad can it be! :-D))
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I think Sue is right. I'm thinking of written directions that have to be done backwards and reversing the stitches.

No problem...that's why I wanted more input than just me staring at the chart and trying to make sure it was making sense!!
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I find that when knitting patterns in the round that were meant flat (e.g. a lace pattern used for making socks or like lately for a hat) that the switch between the rounds is the tricky thing.
With a stitch marker you will know where it is. But your knitting won't know.
you just spiral up, instead of jumping a level higher.
that may just be fine, but the more "Line based" the pattern is, the more it will look odd, because End of line 1 runs seamlessly into beginning of line 2 and so on.

In crocheting you would just "chain up" and start a new flat round, but in knitting you make a spiral.

I would not care, if I made bands of cables running up or so. They have "blank parts" in the pattern that will hide that.
But in a complicated (lacey or knit/purl) pattern, e.g. you might have this odd spot. Space your pattern to the best possible place for the transition.

Also with lace (increase and decrease) it is sometimes hard to make the same amount of stitches happen, because you can hardly use the "lead out" of the chart to draw even...

If you run into problems: let us know. I would be as interested in helping out as in finding out, what others have to say on it!


I work with charts a lot, so I don't think they are too hard.
IF your chart gives you odd as well as even numbers of rows: work them all from right to left, just do the opposite stitch (k/p) in the even rows (2,4,6,...).
If you hit very compicated stitches in the even row(intricate increases or decreases) you may change the look. But from my experience all the hard stuff happens in the odd rows :D



I just worked a Scandinavian pattern with the strangest chart, by the way: ONE symbol was meaning: Knit on right side, purl on wrong side. And then there was one for the opposite of this, of course. (in German charts it would just give the purl symbol in the WS-row. But no: this one showed all lines, just the SAME symbol meant the opposite when given in an even row.
Well confusing for a few minutes, then it worked :D Just read the symbol instructions carefully.
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Okay, I realize that I could keep this entirely to myself and no one would ever know how completely stupid I am, but it's really so funny, I just have to share.

Background...I've been knitting about 4 years and consider myself to be a good solid intermediate knitter. I'm not really intimidated and believe I could knit anything I wanted to, if I am willing to put in the effort.

I also like to think things through (thankfully, as you'll see in a minute), before I start, and I'm visual, so I like to really understand how it will work before I get going.

I also am a fan of Knitpicks and love to listen to Kelley Petkun's podcasts. I know from that that she is a big fan of knitting in the round and doesn't like to have projects that seam up. And I know that she loves knitting her socks two-at-a-time.

So, I confess I was a bit puzzled when this pattern from their Fancy Feet Anklet kit switched to flat knitting in the middle. I came here and asked, got all my info, but had to set my knitting aside. I continued to ponder this pattern, wanting to make sure I was clear which stitches were which as I went around, because the beginning of the row changed at a certain point.

So, I kept going over and over one part of it and stopping. This morning I was lying in bed still thinking, and in my mind continued the pattern on around.....and suddenly realized why these switch to flat knitting.

THEY ARE MARY JANES!!!!! If I'd gone on with my plan, I would have found myself with this strand of yarn going across the top of the foot where the opening is!!!

Good grief!! I feel so stupid, but after all your help, I thought you'd enjoy knowing what I was working on and...well, you deserved the laugh as well. (I guess if I'd just plunged in, it would have been obvious soon enough!)

Do I get a little credit for figuring it out before doing it?? I am once again reminded of the old adage, Trust the pattern!

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