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 04-01-2011, 02:55 AM #1 DiSs Casting On     Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Am I misunderstanding "inc1 into next 2 sts"? I'm not sure if it's the pattern or me, LOL. I haven't been knitting very long, so i'd like to assume it's me, but just in case... I'm knitting these hand puppet things and the pattern calls for an original 30 sts CO. So... got that.... worked it up the cuff and start of hand, get to the shaping and here's the problem: Pattern says: Inc1, k16, inc1 into next 2 sts, k14, inc1-- 34sts From what i've read, it seems as though i'm supposed to kfb of those 2 stitches, right? That would turn those 2 into 4, right? So, let's do a little math. 16+14= 30, 30+inc1= 31, 31+inc1=32, and 32+inc1 into next 2 (makes 4?)= 36... Just doesn't add up. It says i should end with 34 sts... Am i wrong in thinking that i should kfb of 2 sts? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!

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 04-01-2011, 03:15 AM #2 RoseFairy 1st Leg of the Journey     Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 157 Thanks: 19 Thanked 44 Times in 40 Posts When it says inc1 into the next 2 stitches you're only increasing by 2 stitches, not 4. So it'd be: Inc1, k16, inc1, inc1, k14, inc1-- 34sts __________________ FairyRose on Ravelry
 04-01-2011, 03:24 AM #3 DiSs Casting On     Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks for replying so fast. wow. I see that it would only inc by 2, but the total would still be 36 because the 2 that im inc on are still counted in the final st count. I mean, it wouldn't be an inc if the 2 stayed 2 instead of becoming 4, right?
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 Quote: the pattern calls for an original 30 sts CO.
 Quote: Pattern says: Inc1, k16, inc1 into next 2 sts, k14, inc1-- 34sts
Total stitches increase = 4

Inc 1 = 1
k16
Inc 1 into next 2 sts = 2
k14
Inc 1 = 1

1+2+1 = 4

Original 30 st CO + 4 Inc = 34 sts total

 04-01-2011, 06:03 AM #5 salmonmac Moderator Mod Squad   Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 11,325 Thanks: 836 Thanked 4,135 Times in 3,777 Posts "Inc1, k16, inc1 into next 2 sts, k14, inc1-- 34sts" I think I would do the first increase by casting on 1, k15, inc1 into the next 2 sts, k13, and then shift the right hand needle to the left hand and cast on 1. You're right that the numbers don't add up. (16 + 14 = 30 and that's presumably the number of sts on the needle at the beginning of the row, so you don't have the 2 more sts to increase into.)
 04-01-2011, 09:45 AM #6 suzeeq Knit On!   Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montana Posts: 27,765 Thanks: 160 Thanked 6,457 Times in 6,038 Posts Increase into a stitch would be kfb, not a m1, but if you're to k16 and k14 that's the original 30 sts. You can't do a m1 before the first st and after the last st anyway and next to each other in the middle. I think their number is off - kfb, k16, kfb, kfb, k14, kfb takes 34 sts and you end up with 38. Typos happen in patterns, look at the next set of instructions and see which number works better - 34, 36 or 38 __________________ sue- knitting heretic
 04-01-2011, 09:48 AM #7 Mystery_Gyrl Turning the Heel     Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 668 Thanks: 46 Thanked 353 Times in 306 Posts Hello, I don't know if you worked the pattern yet, but I thought I would try to help clarify your confusion with the four count issue. With the knit front and back stitch/technique when you knit into the front of the stitch you are maintaining the original stitch that you had cast on (or possibly removed if you did a knit 2 together somewhere in your pattern) when you knit into the back of the stitch you are adding or increasing one stitch. So yes, if you increase one each into the next two stitches you will have a total of four stitches (in that section); however, two of those stitches will be to maintain the original 30 sts and the other two will be to add to the desired 4 increased sts total. I sometimes have this problem with knit two together. I hope this explanation was of use to you and or someone else. Katrina __________________ Judge: Madame, either you will have to cease knitting or I will have to cease judging. Which shall it be? Miss Marple: It helps me to concentrate, milord. Judge: It does not help me, madame. Miss Marple: Oh. Very well. (puts away knitting) Judge: Thank you, Madame. The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne. ~ Geoffrey Chaucer - The Parliament of Fowls Line 1.

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