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Old 03-21-2012, 11:02 AM   #11
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Your work is always spot on! I didn't realize you are also into charity knitting! Kudos to you.

About Pattern Tester Knitting you mentioned: I have a Rav BFF who volunteered to be a test knitter, an intricate cowl. It was a frightful experience. She was essentially re-writing the pattern for the designer. She said she'd never get sucked into "test knitting" again because it's not until you're committed that you realize you're really the "pattern writer", followed by the knitting. Very frustrating and time consuming.

I realize not all test knitting is such a bummer, but it scared me off. Writing the pattern is the hardest part.
The "designer" really took advantage of her test knitters on that one. My BFF is the type to follow through, no matter what. I'm afraid I'm the type that would heave the mess right back where it belongs, in the designer's lap, or her desk.
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:25 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by ArtLady1981 View Post
Your work is always spot on! I didn't realize you are also into charity knitting! Kudos to you.

About Pattern Tester Knitting you mentioned: I have a Rav BFF who volunteered to be a test knitter, an intricate cowl. It was a frightful experience. She was essentially re-writing the pattern for the designer. She said she'd never get sucked into "test knitting" again because it's not until you're committed that you realize you're really the "pattern writer", followed by the knitting. Very frustrating and time consuming.

I realize not all test knitting is such a bummer, but it scared me off. Writing the pattern is the hardest part.
The "designer" really took advantage of her test knitters on that one. My BFF is the type to follow through, no matter what. I'm afraid I'm the type that would heave the mess right back where it belongs, in the designer's lap, or her desk.
I've often thought of doing test knitting, but I'm not good enough yet. However, I would not be rewriting the pattern for someone. I would definitely be sending it back with a request for THEM to fix it before I moved on. Perhaps your friend is easily taken advantage of or maybe I'm off base and when you agree to test knit something, you agree to fix all the designer's mistakes, too??????
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:13 PM   #13
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I've often thought of doing test knitting, but I'm not good enough yet. However, I would not be rewriting the pattern for someone. I would definitely be sending it back with a request for THEM to fix it before I moved on. Perhaps your friend is easily taken advantage of or maybe I'm off base and when you agree to test knit something, you agree to fix all the designer's mistakes, too??????
Well, my Rav BFF was under this impression: "the pattern is complete and ready to be knitted. If any part of the pattern language is unclear, let me know so that improvements can be made for clarity's sake, so the published pattern is clear and regular knitters will have a good experience."

Yeah, riiiiiiiight.

The pattern was so full of errors, my BFF had to re-write it just to get the cowl done and out of her hair.

When you sign up to be a test knitter, the designers have a ton of rules and deadlines for the test knitter. I think test knitters should require the designer to sign something, too.

I've never quite understood what the "draw" is for "test knitting". I understand the advantage to the designer, but what does the test knitter stand to gain? I'd be a designer's nightmare test knitter, scrutinizing every aspect of the pattern, tweaking, modifying language, etc. Nope, test knitting is not.for.me.
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To Artlady:

I am sorry to hear about your friend's experience. Mine was very positive and I am pretty happy that I did it
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I am sorry to hear about your friend's experience. Mine was very positive and I am pretty happy that I did it
I think it's more of an isolated incident, specific to THAT DESIGNER. If all the designers took such advantage of their test knitters, I'm certain they'd lose all their "help".

Plus, this design wasn't for charity. It was for profit. Maybe charity knitting has better karma, coming from the heart.

I admire your efforts in behalf of these babies and their families!
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I think it's more of an isolated incident, specific to THAT DESIGNER. If all the designers took such advantage of their test knitters, I'm certain they'd lose all their "help".
Maybe not so isolated. I made a baby sweater about a year ago and noticed immediately that the pattern was wrong...so I contacted the shop I bought it from. A copy of my e-mail was sent to the designer who in turn contacted me and said I was the only one who had ever "complained" about his design. He said he'd had the pattern test knitted twice and neither knitter made note of anything awry...made me wonder what the point of test knitting was. I was able to remove the 10 extra stitches and go on with the sweater, but some poor unsuspecting newbie would've been tearing her hair out!

Turned out I didn't work the pattern the way the designer did, but when he confirmed the error he did apologize and posted errata on the pattern page.

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Judy,

Oh my. Well, I feel your pain. I've experienced the wrath and paranoia of one particular designer, and let's just agree: creative people are not always the most agreeable! No social skills. Paranoid, cranky, and emotionally derailed.

Hopefully no one will ever experience the wrath of BMB.

Happy to hear that your designer apologized. Not all would.
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This is why I've taken to being my own designer using gauge, swatch, rulers, and size charts. At least when I do it, I know it's been done right. I rarely follow patterns anymore. Half the time I'm finding fault with them, stitch counts or whatever, and redoing them anyway. It's not so bad if you're an advanced knitter, but it's frustrating to a beginner or an intermediate. They push the patterns through without being perfected trying to make a fast buck. All some of them care about is the credit card clearing. After that, it's your problem.
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