02-26-2013, 05:09 PM #1 GrumpyGramma Grafting the Toe     Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 7,570 Thanks: 1,958 Thanked 3,098 Times in 2,608 Posts Buttonholes for the math impaired Today's story problem: GrumpyGramma decided to knit a cardigan sweater and is now ready to make the eylet buttonholes. If GrumpyGramma has 123 stitches on her needle and has decided to use seven buttons, how many stitches will she need to make between buttonholes? I know there must be a fairly simple way to figure out buttonhole placement even for the mathematically challenged such as I. A link to somewhere that tells me how to do it? I usually end up laying the buttons out as I think they should be, then count stitches and adjust until I at least think I have it right. I would appreciate any help in learning how to figure this out. __________________ ~ GG Happiness is catching that dropped stitch while it's still fixable..

 02-26-2013, 05:14 PM #2 suzeeq Knit On!   Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montana Posts: 27,765 Thanks: 160 Thanked 6,451 Times in 6,035 Posts Well yeah, you would place the buttons on the edge of the sweater, then measure from center to center to see how far apart they are, then make the holes the same distance apart. __________________ sue- knitting heretic
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 02-26-2013, 06:19 PM #3 salmonmac Moderator Mod Squad   Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 8,425 Thanks: 624 Thanked 3,388 Times in 3,069 Posts Usually the top and the bottom buttonholes are close to the top edge and bottom edge of the buttonhole band and then the other buttons are evenly spaced between. Eunny Jang has a neat trick where she cuts a strip of paper that is the same length as the length from the top button to the bottom button. Then she folds and uses the creases to mark the other buttonholes. (You can fold as many times as you need to for the number of buttonholes you'd like.) http://www.knittingdaily.com/blogs/d...es-evenly.aspx No math! __________________ Knitting Help Videos Here!-
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02-26-2013, 06:30 PM   #4
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 Originally Posted by salmonmac Usually the top and the bottom buttonholes are close to the top edge and bottom edge of the buttonhole band and then the other buttons are evenly spaced between. Eunny Jang has a neat trick where she cuts a strip of paper that is the same length as the length from the top button to the bottom button. Then she folds and uses the creases to mark the other buttonholes. (You can fold as many times as you need to for the number of buttonholes you'd like.) http://www.knittingdaily.com/blogs/d...es-evenly.aspx No math!

Love it! I've already gotten these buttonholes figured out, I'll have to remember to try this next time. No math!!!! I knew there must be a way to make it work sans math!!!! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!!!!!
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 02-27-2013, 09:28 AM #5 Antares Working the Gusset   Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,884 Thanks: 236 Thanked 675 Times in 632 Posts Another neat trick I read about (Lily Chin, I believe) is to use a piece of elastic and mark off the buttonholes on it (without stretching it) every inch or so (I suppose any measurement will do as long as you stay consistent and make sure you leave enough room to get all the buttonhole marks you need on the elastic). Then stretch the elastic to the proper size and mark the buttonholes on your band.
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 02-27-2013, 09:53 AM #6 knitcindy Turning the Heel   Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 658 Thanks: 46 Thanked 134 Times in 109 Posts Just wondering...........what cardigan did GrumpyGramma end up making?? knitcindy Last edited by knitcindy : 02-27-2013 at 09:53 AM. Reason: spelling
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 Originally Posted by knitcindy Just wondering...........what cardigan did GrumpyGramma end up making?? knitcindy

GrumpyGramma decided to cast on some stitches and just start knitting.

I've done a drop shoulder from the bottom up. It has kangaroo style pockets, seed stitch bottom band and I'm binding off the seed stitch buttonhole band. I'll do the button band and then decide about the collar and last of all I'll do the sleeves. Unless I try it on, decide I don't like it after all and frog the whole thing. It's pretty simple really, but I think I got the short row shaping on the front right.
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 Originally Posted by Antares Another neat trick I read about (Lily Chin, I believe) is to use a piece of elastic and mark off the buttonholes on it (without stretching it) every inch or so (I suppose any measurement will do as long as you stay consistent and make sure you leave enough room to get all the buttonhole marks you need on the elastic). Then stretch the elastic to the proper size and mark the buttonholes on your band.

This is interesting. I think I understand how it should work. I'll have to see if I can use it sometime.
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 02-27-2013, 11:52 AM #9 Antares Working the Gusset   Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,884 Thanks: 236 Thanked 675 Times in 632 Posts Will you do the top-down, seamless, set-in sleeves? (Boy, we're a nosy bunch, aren't we?)
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 Originally Posted by Antares Will you do the top-down, seamless, set-in sleeves? (Boy, we're a nosy bunch, aren't we?)

First, will I do sleeves? I dunno. I have to get past trying it on after the front bands are done to see if I'm going to go on. If I don't frog it then I'll decide whether to do sleeves. I have lots of yarn so that's not a deciding factor. I've thought about doing a seed stitch band around the armholes and just leaving it sort of a cap sleeve. If I do sleeves I'll pick up and knit them in the round, so I think that means they'll have to be top-down. I'm thinking a shawl collar but the only one I've done wasn't one I want to do again, I have to do some looking and learning to see if there isn't another way to do it. That one involved picking up stitches along the back of the neck and then casting on stitches later to extend the length of the collar and seaming the thing at the end. I want to avoid seaming. I've knit front and back together, no side seams, and used a 3-needle bind off for the shoulders. I do have to seam the sides of the pockets--for the bottom I did kfb and held the pocket sts on a holder till I got up as high as I wanted the top of the pocket, went back and knit the pocket and then k2tog to join the pocket sts back into the body of the sweater. I need to see how to pick up a stitch on the front of the sweater at each end of a pocket row to knit it into place as a I go. I saw something about patching a sock heel that involved using a stitch from the sock and think that method should work. Next time.

(Yes! we are! Thanks for asking. You got me started and Ididn't want to stop. )

I got a Tunisian crochet hook from KP to go with my interchangables and used it to pick up stitches for the front band. Love it! It made it quicker and easier for me.
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