Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-30-2013, 08:58 AM   #1
nicolajaneduffy
Casting On
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 10
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Border on Bolero - Joining Stockinette piece to Garter piece - best stitch?
Hi knowledgeable people!

I'm knitting the Debbie Bliss Baby Cashmerino Bolero. I'm in the process of sewing on the border which is garter stitch to the main body which is stockinette. I am attempting matress stitch although I am kind of making it up as I go along as I am not sure of the proper method for working with two pieces in these stitches. I tried back stitch but it looked messy.
Both ways of jointing don't seem to lie flat either?!

Hopefully someone can help!
nicolajaneduffy is offline   Reply With Quote

 

This advertising will not be shown to registered members. Join our free online community today!

Old 04-30-2013, 11:07 AM   #2
ArtLady1981
Moderator
Mod Squad
 
ArtLady1981's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Kent, Washington
Posts: 10,473
Thanks: 5,264
Thanked 3,893 Times in 3,014 Posts
Oh ouch. This one is a tough project, the joining the border to the body. There is no 'best stitch' IMO. Maybe very very careful weaving back and forth from one edge to the other would work, taking great pains to take teensy stitches. Many knitters over at Ravelry are complaining that it's very difficult to join this garter stitch band to the body. So it's not just you!

You're sure right....the border just won't lie flat. It's tricky.

Click this link below and see what another knitter did as a PLAN B:

http://www.ravelry.com/projects/sarahsh123/baby-bolero

I really like what she did! It looks good from the Outside and the Inside! And personally, if I was going to knit this adorable baby bolero, I'd do what she did! I'd skip that separately knit garter stitch border that needs to be seamed onto the edges all around!

A lot of those that tried doing it the way the pattern indicates....well, few of them lie flat, and most of them are a hot mess on the inside view. Ugh. And the knitters themselves don't mind saying so.

BTW...185 knitters over at Ravelry have made, or are in the process of knitting this baby bolero. I haven't read through all 7 pages of notes each knitter might have shared....but I suggest that we should! We might find more tips for that border! Plan C, Plan D, etc.

I do this on a regular basis....read thru all the project notes that other knitters have taken the time to share. It's saved my 'bacon' many a time! I've avoided problems, and/or I've found remedies for problems!

I'm back! I've seen another great Plan B! Click link below!

http://www.ravelry.com/projects/scar...ss/baby-bolero
__________________
Knitting Help Video Index

Artlady at Rav

Last edited by ArtLady1981 : 04-30-2013 at 01:29 PM.
ArtLady1981 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2013, 12:42 PM   #3
nicolajaneduffy
Casting On
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 10
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Oh no! Doesn't seem like this pattern is great when you get to this point.

I'm not sure how I would do the first link and the second - well I can't crochet but would love to!

I'll have a look through what other knitters have said - thanks very much for the tips!

I have only really knitted garmets from Debbie Bliss patterns and I always seem to hit something like this that is overly complicated! As beautiful as they are it is a little frustrating!
nicolajaneduffy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2013, 12:50 PM   #4
nicolajaneduffy
Casting On
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 10
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Looking at Ralvery it looks like it is an issue for alot of people!! Might continue a bit further with matress stitch and see how it looks...
nicolajaneduffy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2013, 01:16 PM   #5
ArtLady1981
Moderator
Mod Squad
 
ArtLady1981's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Kent, Washington
Posts: 10,473
Thanks: 5,264
Thanked 3,893 Times in 3,014 Posts
Originally Posted by nicolajaneduffy View Post
Looking at Ralvery it looks like it is an issue for alot of people!! Might continue a bit further with matress stitch and see how it looks...
A good tip, if you want to continue to work on the mattress seaming: poke your needle in as close to the very edge as you can; and make sure you consistently poke in and out at the same distance from the very edge all the way along your trip! This ensures that there won't be too much of a bulky seam from the inside view, plus it will be even and not lumpy.

Another tip: I use teeny baby clippies (that you get at the grocery store) to hold my two pieces securely together, removing the baby clippies one by one as I seam up to them.

The point is, clipping your entire garter stitch border to the entire sweater edges BEFORE beginning to mattress your way along has another distinct advantage: you'll be able to evenly distribute the garter stitch border around all those curved edges.
__________________
Knitting Help Video Index

Artlady at Rav
ArtLady1981 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2013, 01:24 PM   #6
salmonmac
Moderator
Mod Squad
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Maryland
Posts: 8,377
Thanks: 617
Thanked 3,374 Times in 3,057 Posts
Not easy to do at all, I agree. I've gotten around situations like this by weaving a strand of yarn on a tapistry needle back and forth between the body and the border. It's a bit like matress stitch but doesn't leave a seam becasue the two edges are abutted. You pick up at the very edge of one piece and move on a bit farther to pick up the very edge on the other piece. The yarn travels in a zig-zag linking border and body. It's not absolutely the sturdiest seam but it works.
__________________
Knitting Help Videos Here!-
salmonmac is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to salmonmac For This Useful Post:
GrumpyGramma (04-30-2013)
Old 04-30-2013, 04:10 PM   #7
nicolajaneduffy
Casting On
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 10
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks guys.

I might try weaving OR what do you guys think about going off pattern and picking up the stitches? I have seen a few people have done this instead. I'm okay with picking up stitches but a little nervous about going off pattern!
nicolajaneduffy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2013, 05:42 PM   #8
salmonmac
Moderator
Mod Squad
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Maryland
Posts: 8,377
Thanks: 617
Thanked 3,374 Times in 3,057 Posts
Picking up stitches around the body of the bolero? That sounds like a good idea to me. It's a much better join and seam between the bolero and the border. Pick up a few extra sts, or space the sts more closely at corners or obvious curves and it'll be fine.
__________________
Knitting Help Videos Here!-
salmonmac is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2013, 05:48 PM   #9
ArtLady1981
Moderator
Mod Squad
 
ArtLady1981's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Kent, Washington
Posts: 10,473
Thanks: 5,264
Thanked 3,893 Times in 3,014 Posts
Picking up stitches around the edge of the bolero is what those other Ravelry knitters did! It looks great. That's what I would do. The girl in the first link picked up stitches all around, then worked ribbing, K2P2 ribbing.

Are you thinking about doing ribbing, or garter stitch, after you've picked up stitches?
__________________
Knitting Help Video Index

Artlady at Rav
ArtLady1981 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2013, 08:24 AM   #10
nicolajaneduffy
Casting On
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 10
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I was going to do rib but then on a whim I have opted for garter - I hope I made the right decision?! I've picked up the stitches and I think it will be better this way, just need to knit a few more rows to see how it's looking.
nicolajaneduffy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
HELP uneven trinity stitch. piece not square RoseOOPs How-to Questions 2 04-03-2012 05:50 PM
Correct a stitch in a finished piece? bixology How-to Questions 1 02-19-2011 02:03 PM
converting from knitting piece by piece to one piece nolaj21 How-to Questions 2 12-22-2010 11:39 AM
Has Anyone Ever Knitted A Piece, Then Felted, That Piece, and Used it as Upholstery Fabric? kurango General Knitting 4 06-03-2008 01:37 PM
Looking for 1 piece garter st baby sweater. Eva50 Pattern Central 3 01-29-2008 03:41 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:03 AM.