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Old 08-29-2007, 06:30 AM   #11
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Ok..aside from not knowing what 'brown' in the context actually means...two points.

We have heard examples here before of American born, english speaking people never having heard of knitting before. This is an experiential thing and if you had said 'weaving' it may have hit the mark better. How many knitting stores are in that country for example against weaving or rug outlets?

Secondly, a number of high ranking CEO's and American politicians made the point not that long ago that America would fall over without illegal immigrants because they often do the dirty jobs no-one else wants to do.

Tolerance people and understanding that when someone doesn't know something it might not be unwillingness or ignorance but simply because they are not familiar. A number of posters here have spoken about having trouble finding yarn stores in their country. If that is the case then how would people in said country encounter knowledge about the topic of knitting.
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Old 08-29-2007, 07:04 AM   #12
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Oh..and to be fair..do I sometimes get the hump because people here can't speak English properly? Sure I do. But there's a difference between your govt allowing people in through usual immigration schemes (and not checking english proficiency in the process) and people who have come as genuine refugees who are doing their best to better their lives. On this issue I am sympathetic but as I know no other language than English I would be a complete dolt elsewhere.
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English is actually only the de facto National Language in the States. There is no law saying that English is the Official National Language, so it's really hard to say to immigrants, "You MUST learn the language." I think if they are going to be in a position where they interact with the public on a regular basis, they should be able to understand and speak English reasonably well.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:04 AM   #14
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Stiney.. Where I am bothered in particular is when someone can't properly read road signs or, if pulled over or spoken to by a police officer can't respond to any questions at all, or they can't respond to an emergency and don't know the emergency number and so on. I feel certain basic issues of safety and assistance and response must be taught as a priority. I agree that if someone works in a public face industry they should have proficiency in the primary language - however, harking back to knitting, as I commented earlier, people with english proficiency haven't known what knitting was so the specific inability to respond to questions about knitting is not necessarily a language issue as such.
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