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Old 09-09-2010, 12:23 PM   #1
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Short rows
Hi, Am I making too much of this? Will it make sense as I'm doing it?? Hope someone can help me understand these instructions:

Short Rows
You will now work short rows across the middle of
the back in order to raise it and allow for a better
fit on the shoulders and neck.
Row 1 (RS): K 75, w&t.
Row 2 (WS): P 41 sts, w&t.
Row 3: Work to 5 sts before last
wrap, w&t.
Rows 4-10: Repeat row 3, knitting on the RS and purling on the WS, 7 times more.
Row 11: After last w&t, k to end of row, picking up wraps with associated sts.
Row 12: P all sts, picking up remaining wraps with associated sts.

W&T Work until the stitch to be wrapped. If knitting: bring yarn to the front of the
work, slip next st as if to purl, return the yarn to the back; turn work and slip
wrapped st onto right hand needle. Continue across row. If purling: bring yarn
to the back of the work, slip next st as if to purl, return the yarn to the front;
turn work and slip wrapped st onto RH needle. Continue across row.
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Old 09-09-2010, 12:34 PM   #2
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Yes, it'll make more sense as you work. If you have questions while you're working or when you're done ask away.
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Those are very good instructions on how to do what they ask you to do so I think you'll be okay if you just follow it as you go. Just remember that the basic idea of short rows is that you are only working across part of the row and then turning as though you were at the end of the row and working back that direction. When you turn in the middle of a row there will be a hole made. That is why they do the wrapping procedure. It closes the hole.

I just noticed on rows 11 and 12 that it tells you to pick up the wraps. They don't tell you how to do that though in anything I see here. There is something to know about that too before you try it. There is a video about short rows with wraps on this site. Here is a link to the page. LINK I don't know if the video covers picking up the wraps.
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Thanks to all! Yes, I tend to get easily overwhelmed...lol
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Hi, I can't seem to find the LINK that you have referred me to...thanks!
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Hi, I can't seem to find the LINK that you have referred me to...thanks!
The link is in Merigold's post.
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Go to the advanced techniques page on the videos.
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Help (again)
OK...I viewed the video and I kind of get the short rows...But, I worked the 75 sts on the knit side and then I did the wrap and turn. I have a total of 110 sts. After I turn the work, I am on a purl side. Do I turn again and finish knitting? Or do I just stay on the purl side and continue to purl to the end of the row???

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Row 1 (RS): K 75, w&t.

Row 2 (WS): P 41 sts, w&t.-*Is this a totally new row or is this the continuation from the wrap and turn on Row 1?

Row 3: Work to 5 sts before last
wrap, w&t.

Rows 4-10: Repeat row 3, knitting on the RS and purling on the WS, 7 times more.** Like here-row 4 would be a purl row, but I don't think it will be now with all the previous wraps and turns-right??
Row 11: After last w&t, k to end of row, picking up wraps with associated sts.
Row 12: P all sts, picking up remaining wraps with associated sts.

W&T Work until the stitch to be wrapped. If knitting: bring yarn to the front of the
work, slip next st as if to purl, return the yarn to the back; turn work and slip
wrapped st onto right hand needle. Continue across row. If purling: bring yarn
to the back of the work, slip next st as if to purl, return the yarn to the front;
turn work and slip wrapped st onto RH needle. Continue across row.
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After you k 75, wrap and turn to do row 2 which is 41 sts, then wrap and turn for row 3, where you end 5 sts before the w&t on R 1. Wrap and turn again, purl R 4, ending 5 sts before the w&t on row 2. Wrap and turn knitting R 5, ending 5 sts before the w&t on row 3. And so on.

Your short rows are getting shorter by 5 sts each row until R 11. Knit to the very end of the row, knitting the wrapped sts together with the st they're wrapped around. Turn and for R 12 purl the very end, purling the wrapped sts tog with the st they're wrapped around.
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Than you for your reply. Actually I did finally figure it out before I got your help! Here is the thing...Because I'm not that experienced, when I'm doing anything other than straight knits and purls and I make a mistake, I can't fix it since I don't know how to fix ssk, psso, etc....So, I end up ripping out the whole thing (again and again...). I've tried ripping it out until I can get to row that I know, but I haven't been successful with that with this pattern. So....for about the 5th time, I'm ripping out AGAIN! Why? Because I made some silly error after I completed all the short rows!!!!! AAAGGGGRRRRRHHHHHH! That is why I average about one sweater a year...LOL No joke! For some reason this particular pattern is giving me trouble. Does it ever seem to anybody else that they spend more time ripping out than actually knitting?? And the saddest thing, I still love to knit!!!
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