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Old 02-13-2011, 08:17 PM   #11
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Isn't K1bl usually the symbol for "knit below"?
Kb is "knit into back leg."

This woman calls this stitch "Rose Garden," But I've seen it elsewhere as Waffle. It just offsets each Kbl and K1 by one, so it's like Fisherman's Rib broken up.

http://www.maggiesrags.com/freerosehat.htm
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Old 02-13-2011, 08:31 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by kittykins View Post
I googled it too. Pretty neat! Once again I've learned another knitting technique. Thanks!
Like new stitches? Try these:

http://knittingonthenet.com/stitches.htm

http://knitting.about.com/od/stitchg...n_Glossary.htm

I've just saved on my computer about 10 I like, and I'll incorporate them into something eventually. One just went into a hat.
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Old 02-13-2011, 08:35 PM   #13
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Knit 1 below is abbreviated as - k-b, k1b, and anything else which can get it confused with ktbl (the more common term for knit through back leg). The pattern should explain all terms and how to do them.

These sts have a variety of names given to them as well; Fisherman's rib is also called Shaker stitch or rib too. Some waffle sts also have different names, like 'honeycomb'. For example Trinity, blackberry, bramble and berry st are all the same stitch, or pretty much all the same.
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Old 02-13-2011, 08:53 PM   #14
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The stitch I'm using now uses kbl for "knit below," and to make things worse, Waffle in one glossary is not the same as Waffle in another, and Honeycomb has little resemblance to a honeycomb. There's no standardization of stitches because knitting has a 500-year history.

I'm glad the yarn weights are now standardized, but that's not perfect either. In one of my wool blends, the heather colors are thinner than the solid colors; all are #4.
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Old 02-13-2011, 10:34 PM   #15
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There will probably never be standardization of knitting terms and stitches. The kfb increase is also called the bar inc, which is sometimes applied to the M1 which is also called a lifted increase, which is sometimes used to mean the KLL/KRL incs (which also have other terms applied to them). The long tail CO is sometimes called the double CO because it uses 2 strands of yarn instead of the single COs like knit and cable, and it's also called a slingshot CO. A good pattern will define whatever it calls the terms it uses, and explain how to make them.
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Old 02-14-2011, 12:32 AM   #16
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Exactly. Problem is, not all patterns are that good, or we wouldn't have forums for explaining patterns. Some amateur designers, like some doctors, don't get it --the purpose of writing is to communicate .
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There's an entire book devoted to F Rib:

http://knitting.about.com/gi/o.htm?z...ersreview.com/
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Old 02-15-2011, 07:53 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by Woodi View Post
I don't know the stitch....can you describe it? or are there instructions somewhere?
http://www.lanagrossa.com/service/stricktipps/stricktipp_patentmuster.html

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It's not a twisted rib, it's a variation of brioche stitch - see this. With regular ribbing you're moving the yarn back and forth for the knits and purls. The way I do F. rib is to either make all rows the same - k1, k1below - to make it reversible, or knit the ws rows. It's not necessary to purl at all and it still looks like purls.
I'm going to have to watch a video on how to do fisherman's rib without the purling. I didn't realize that it could be done that way, and that sounds like it will make this scarf a lot easier on me. I'm knitting on 3 mm needles, 30 stitches across, and it's taking FOREVER!!!!!!
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2x2 Fisherman's rib
BTW, does anyone know if you can do 2x2 fisherman's rib?
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Nope, I don't think you can do it in 2x2. Check the brioche stitch site, it's similar and there's a few variations.

By knitting the WS row, or repeating the k1, k1b, you create a sort of garter stitch which makes the k1 sts appear to be purled on the RS every other row, so it looks similar to a k p rib, or a mock rib. (which is k1 p1 on the RS, knit all sts on the WS).
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