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Old 04-02-2011, 03:18 PM   #1
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Purling in DPN
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I'm currently trying to make a variation of this:

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I'm fine with normal knitting and purling on double pointed needles in the round--however, purling between needles *always* leaves me with a ladder.

What do I have to do so this doesn't happen? This is quite frustrating and I can barely find any info online. Please help
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Old 04-02-2011, 03:35 PM   #2
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If the ladder is due to less tension on the yarn between needles, I just tug slightly more on the first st on the new needle. I have to do it both knitting and purling but now it's become so routine, I don't even think about it.
It also seems easier to me to use 5 dpns instead of 4.
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Old 04-02-2011, 03:43 PM   #3
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So it seems that even though I pull pretty hard, the laddering still happens. Thus, I'm thinking it's a positional thing. I've looked around and haven't seen much on it.
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Old 04-02-2011, 04:49 PM   #4
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When I'm knitting on dpns and I get the the first stitch on the next needle, instead of knitting onto the empty needle I knit onto the previous needle I just finished with. It ends up slowly rotating the stitches so a ladder isn't likely to form.
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Couple things you can try -
Try holding the needles together at the join for about 5 stitches so it doesn't stretch.

Adjust the stitches so you aren't starting with a purl on each needle. I always do this.

You can also wrap the purl under instead of over thereby twisting the stitch. It won't show on the outside so as long as the project isn't reversible it helps a lot. I often do this, too.

Here's my blog where I show a photo and explain how I did it.
http://knittingandmore.blogspot.com/
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Old 04-02-2011, 05:20 PM   #6
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Thank you both, I will try these and see if it helps! I've been trying to pull everything tight on my first stitch and it looks like that is working as well. Once I find a method that works well, I'll just stick to it! Thanks again for your suggestions!!
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I'm just learning how to use DPN's and love any tips I can get! Thanks!
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Old 04-02-2011, 07:37 PM   #8
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Pulling the yarn tighter can make the ladders worse, so don't pull on the first st, pull a little as you make the 2nd st.
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Old 04-02-2011, 08:08 PM   #9
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Pulling a little tighter on the first stitch on the next needle does help, but I've found that after you finish your project and it's off the needles, washed, dried, the ladders will become less evident, unless they are really prominent during your knitting. They seem to even out over time. But keeping the ladders to a minimum is always a good thing, but not the end of the world if yours show just a bit. As you can tell....perfection is not my forte. I used to worry about every teeny tiny mistake (even though a ladder is not a "mistake")...not any more. I just love to knit and don't sweat the small stuff. In the big scheme of things, no one will usually ever notice.
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When I'm switching needles on double points or circulars, I push the first stitch on the left needle as close to the tip of the needle as I can without its falling off. Then I knit the stitch and pull the yarn as tightly as I can for the first one or two stitches. This seems to help eliminate the ladders.
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