twisted and crossed stitches the same?

[susianna]

I've read some tidbits here and there about twisted stitches and crossed stitches. Are they the same, or different? And if so, how?
Thanks so much.

[Jan in CA]

I think they are different things. Twisted stitches are usually stitches that are sitting on the needles wrong. As they face you they should have the front leg to the right.

Crossed stitches could mean that they are crossed as in a mini cable or it could just be a couple stitches that got crossed by accident.

[suzeeq]

Yes twisted sts sit on the needles backwards and have a twist in the individual stitches, and sometimes you do that on purpose. There are also twist sts that are like mini cables. These are usually 2 sts that cross over each other.

[ArtLady1981]

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[susianna]

ArtLady, thanks for the videos! Yes, when I said "twisted stitches" I meant "traveling or mini cables"....so it seems that twisted stitch knitting also means crossed stitch knitting, right? It seems that she used those terms interchangeably? I like the fact that they are mini cables, since I haven't haven't wandered into cable territory yet! Thanks much.

[AngelaR]

Remember, this is for Continental knitting. For people who knit Combined or Eastern, this is not the case with twisted stitches.

[suzeeq]

Continental and english style mount their sts the same way while Eastern and combined are different.

[susianna]

Ok, I knit English, so does the above information about twisted (mini cable) and crossed stitches being the same thing apply to me? I just wanted to know if twisted (traveling) and crossed stitches are the same thing, but just different words....

[suzeeq]

Yes, it's all how the sts are mounted. When you wrap the yarn in a standard style, the front leg is also the closest to the tip of the needle. Eastern and combined wrap 'backwards' so the back leg is closest to the needle. Either one is okay as long as you work the sts into the leg closest to the tip to prevent the individual ones from twisting. With eastern or combined, the decs - k2tog and ssk - need to be swapped out. Some patterns for mini cable twists will have a k2tog then knit into the first st again so someone who knits western (english/continental) there's no adjustments that need to be made.

[WolfWalker]

I'm currently knitting my husband a sweater, and this pattern calls for twisting stitches, but it's not the normal way of just having them mounted differently on the needles. For example, to twist right you knit into the back of the second stitch on the left needle, and then knit into the back of the first stitch on the left needle. To twist left you knit into the second stitch on the needle through the front, and then knit into the front of the first stitch on the left needle. It makes a traveling stitch pattern. And, the stitches remain properly mounted on the needle.