Thanks for the link! I have been worried about the socks because of people posting about "The infamous kitchener stitch". I was thinking "well maybe I should do a hat first" but I crochet and have made 100 hats for my kids because crochet is so fast. . they have monster hats, owl hats, beanies, angry birds hats etc etc, crazy fun hats lol. . .so I watched a how-to tutorial video similar to the one you posted here and realized that "the infamous kitchener stitch" is the same as grafting, which is what I had to do to attach the gusset of the shorts up there to the legs lolol. I guess I don't have to fret about that anymore since I've already done it. I did magic loop to do the legs on the shorts and used 16 inch circular needles for the rise and the waistband. I really like knitting in the round. I picked up crochet in December and Knitting in Feb. I wish I had done it sooner, I really REALLY enjoy it. I am already a fiber fanatic.