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Old 05-17-2013, 01:11 PM   #1
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Do we have to be good at everything?
I have pondered this often:

Is knitting like school? Do We have to learn things we don't like and be able to do them?

Or: is it purely a hobby and meant to be relaxing/enjoyable? Learn things you want to and not everything? Eg: I so far don't like provisional cast on - due to the short rows. I find short rows very intimidating/stressful. Am I a bad knitter if I never want to learn short rows?
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Old 05-17-2013, 01:49 PM   #2
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Of course you don't have to learn something you don't want to. Knitting should be relaxing and enjoyable. By not learning new things it will narrow your choices of some projects, but, if that's okay for you then don't worry about it.

That said...what? You don't use short rows for a provision cast on.
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Nope, that would take the enjoyment out of it. I like learning new things and mastering a new technique but it has to be at my own pace. I dread to think how many peeps might give up, or have given up, if they thought they had to be brilliant at something!
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Old 05-17-2013, 04:34 PM   #4
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Of course you don't have to learn something you don't want to. Knitting should be relaxing and enjoyable. By not learning new things it will narrow your choices of some projects, but, if that's okay for you then don't worry about it.

That said...what? You don't use short rows for a provision cast on.
The wrap and turns after the cast on...?
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http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature...&v=gEEX_L0V_iQ

The short rows after the provisional...that is the part I find...waaaay too complicated. All the picking up and more wraps etc etc.

Makes me wonder if it's ok that I prefer top-down...
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Originally Posted by N0obKnitter View Post
The wrap and turns after the cast on...?
That sounds specific to a pattern. Usually when you do a provisional cast on there are no short rows. BTW...the last short rows I did didn't use wrap and turns. I don't like those either if I can avoid them.

Now I'm not saying you should learn anything you don't want to. This is just an FYI.

I did something like one of these.
http://kaityvr.wordpress.com/2007/05...hort-row-heel/
http://somethingtodowhile.blogspot.c...hort-rows.html
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Old 05-17-2013, 05:41 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by N0obKnitter View Post
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Makes me wonder if it's ok that I prefer top-down...
It's absolutely okay to prefer top down, but... That was weird. If that is your introduction to toe up socks no wonder you prefer top down!! That is far from the basic way to do them.

I use a turkish cast on which creates a closed toe right at the beginning. I increase by using KFB on both sides till I have my toe then just knit till you're ready to do the heel. Most toe up patterns use some form of this same method. No provisional cast on or short rows for the toe. How on earth did you find this pattern?
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Nobody really HAS to knit anymore. We can clothe ourselves without making anything.

Knitting is for fun and whatever part of the brain it stimulates to make it addictive, and you do what you want to do. Some people love fine lace on tiny needles, some chunky washcloths. Some like complicated, some simple.

The good thing is that there are so many things to make that if you don't want to bother with a particular technique, you don't have to. And once you make a few things, you can adapt patterns to be to your liking.
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Yeah, what Ingrid said! I knit a ridiculous number of hats...I can do them without a pattern if I want to, make them as simple or complicated as I need right then and learn new techniques if I want to. If you really want to learn toe up socks then you look for a pattern that suits your needs. Or knit top down, those work, too.
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Yes! You must learn to do everything knitting. That way you can teach me!

I'd seen that video for socks before and found it off putting, went on and found the Lifestyle socks that are mentioned in the video Jan linked to. Thanks for the video, Jan, I'd seen it or something like it before but didn't quite catch on...that was when I hadn't actually done a sock yet I think. I think Silver's Sock Class pretty much gives you a how-to for socks and you can then do them without a pattern. That's what I love about socks, no pattern required unless you want to do something fancy. Personally I like ribbing around my foot, I think on socks from the store it was called an arch support. I like the way it feels snug, not tight, and helps keep the sock in place and the top doesn't get eaten by my shoe. That's something I wanted to learn, so I did. Learn what you want as you need or the spirit moves you. Sometimes you might end up doing a few things you'd rather not simply because you want to do a particular project. It's kind of like life, sometimes to get what we want we do a few things we'd prefer not to do.

Learning to knit English style was a biggie for me. It still seems awkward, but I can do it. Why bother? So I can do colorwork and carry the second color in my right hand. Was it worth the effort? Yes. Will I turn into an English style knitter? Probably not, but if I injure my left hand I should still be able to do garter stitch, I still can't purl English. I plan to try that odd looking provisional cast on followed by short rows toe, someone on the forum said they like it. I might. I do think you might want to look again at provisional cast ons, they come in handy in various places. Or not. It's up to you.

Frankly I'm amazed at how much knitting you can do with young 'uns. If your comfort zone is to do what you've already learned, stick with it. If it ain't fun, why bother?
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