05-26-2013, 04:20 PM   #1
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Help with Calculations
Hiya -

I'm a decent knitter but have never needed to do sizing before based on pattern repetitions. I can follow the actual stitches in the attached pattern, but trying to make sense of the repetitions and repeats, etc., is keeping me up nights. Can anyone explain this a little clearer?

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Kimberly
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 05-26-2013, 04:38 PM #2 salmonmac Moderator Mod Squad   Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 11,325 Thanks: 836 Thanked 4,135 Times in 3,777 Posts Hi and welcome! Can you quote the pattern for a few rows? I can't open Word docs on my laptop. Perhaps someone else will be able to. __________________ Knitting Help Videos Here!-
 05-26-2013, 04:44 PM #3 kswatson Casting On   Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Notes: Shawl is knit from the top neck down to the bottom edges. Odd numbered RS rows are worked K2, follow chart row, K1 (center stitch), follow chart row again, K2. Even numbered WS rows are worked K2, purl to last 2 stitches, K2. *With the exception of row 10 of Chart C. Blue stitch on chart represents center stitch, which is only worked once each row. Pattern repeats are outlined in red on chart, and [bracketed] in written instructions. The shawl can be made bigger/smaller by working more/less repeats of rows 1 - 8 of Chart B. Directions: With Size US 9 needles, cast on 7 stitches. Set up Row: K2, place marker (pm), k1, pm, k1 (center stitch), pm, k1, pm, k2. Chart A – written directions: 1. (RS) K2, *yo, k1, yo*,k1 (center stitch), Repeat *to*, k2. 2. (WS) and all even numbered rows: k2, purl to last 2 stitches, k2. 3. K2, *yo, k3, yo*,k1, Repeat *to*, k2. 5. K2, *yo , k1, yo, S2KP, yo, k1, yo*, k1, Repeat *to*, k2. 7. K2, *yo, k2, yo, S2KP, yo, k2, yo*, k1, Repeat *to*, k2. 9. K2, *yo, k3, yo, S2KP, yo, k3, yo*, k1, Repeat *to*, k2. 11.K2, *yo, k4, yo, S2KP, yo, k4, yo*, k1, Repeat *to*, k2. Chart B - work rows 1 – 8 11 times before working rows 9 and 10. Chart B - written instructions: 1. K2,*yo, k1, yo, S2KP, yo, k1, [yo, S2KP, yo, k1] yo, S2KP, yo, k1, yo,*k1, Repeat *to*, k2. 2. (WS) and all even numbered rows: k2, purl to last 2 stitches, k2. 3. K2,*yo, k2, yo, S2KP, yo, k1, [yo, S2KP, yo, k1] yo, S2KP, yo, k2, yo*, k1, Repeat *to*, k2. 5. K2,* yo, k3, yo, S2KP, yo, k1,[yo, S2KP, yo, k1] yo, S2KP, yo, k3, yo*, k1, Repeat *to*, k2 7.K2, *yo, k4, yo, S2KP, yo, k1, [yo, S2KP, yo, k1] yo, S2KP, yo, k4, yo*, k1, Repeat *to*, k2 . Work rows 1 – 8 11 times before moving on to rows 9 and 10. 9. K2,* yo, k1, yo, S2KP, yo, k1,[yo, S2KP, yo, k1] yo, S2KP, yo, k1, yo,* k1, Repeat *to*, k2. Chart C- change to US 8 needles, and work rows 1 -10. Last edited by kswatson : 05-26-2013 at 05:11 PM. Reason: Prevent Copyright Issues
 05-26-2013, 04:46 PM #4 kswatson Casting On   Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Hi and thanks - I just find this super confusing, so any help will be most appreciated. Thanks! Kimberly
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Here's a photo of the end result. I assume I'm starting with the long top edge and working down, but that's not even totally clear from the instructions!

Kimberly
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 05-26-2013, 04:58 PM #6 GrumpyGramma 2nd Sock, I Rock     Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,772 Thanks: 2,350 Thanked 3,649 Times in 3,095 Posts I looked at your file (LibreOffice opened it for me) but I don't see where you're stuck and/or what calculations you need help with. Where are you first confused? __________________ ~ GG Cheating is an option. . . . Cheaters never win and winners never cheat, but smart knitters who want to retain an iota of sanity do, cheerfully. ~~Kory Stamper
 05-26-2013, 04:59 PM #7 GrumpyGramma 2nd Sock, I Rock     Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,772 Thanks: 2,350 Thanked 3,649 Times in 3,095 Posts As you start with a cast on of 7 sts I think you're working from the point up. __________________ ~ GG Cheating is an option. . . . Cheaters never win and winners never cheat, but smart knitters who want to retain an iota of sanity do, cheerfully. ~~Kory Stamper
 05-26-2013, 05:05 PM #8 salmonmac Moderator Mod Squad   Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 11,325 Thanks: 836 Thanked 4,135 Times in 3,777 Posts There's not a simple repeat for this pattern or patterns except as noted for the instructions in brackets. Decide whether you like follwing charts or written instructions. Sometimes it's even useful to look from one to the other to confirm that stitches are aligning correctly. This pattern looks like you're starting at the pointed end and increasing. There is the centered decrease, the s2kp which decreases 2 sts but there are extra yarn overs which will keep increasing the stitch number. Whether you use the chart or the written directions, use a sticky note or check off the rows as you do them to keep yourself on track. Stitch markers might help with the repeats but the number of repeated sts changes with the row so you'll have to see if they are helpful. Also, really, a few rows of each chart is enough. Would you please edit the post with the instructions so we don't get into copyright problems? It's a lovely pattern and should be fun to do once you get started. __________________ Knitting Help Videos Here!-
 05-26-2013, 05:17 PM #9 kswatson Casting On   Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts OK - just that understanding is helpful. In the notes, it stated "Shawl is knit from the top neck down to the bottom edges," which to me means it's knit from the part at the nape of the woman's neck as she's holding it up in the photo. Where I get confused are the bracketed parts. I understand the *to* repetition part, but how many repetitions of the bracketed pieces do I do/increase and when? Maybe I need to go back to knitting school! :-) 1. K2,*yo, k1, yo, S2KP, yo, k1, [yo, S2KP, yo, k1] yo, S2KP, yo, k1, yo,*k1, Repeat *to*, k2.
 05-26-2013, 05:37 PM #10 salmonmac Moderator Mod Squad   Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 11,325 Thanks: 836 Thanked 4,135 Times in 3,777 Posts Well, those instructions do sound like you're knitting from the widest edge (at the neck) to the point, I agree. The first chart increases 4 sts each odd numbered row and maybe that enough to start the long edge although it sounds like a center point to me. I'd have to try it out to see. The bracketed directions probably apply if you've expanded the original stitch number in chart B by repeating rows 1-8 as stated at the end of the pattern notes. I'd work the Brackets once if you're not going to enlarge the shawl. __________________ Knitting Help Videos Here!-

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