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Old 06-01-2013, 11:41 AM   #1
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Purling front & back Norwegian style?
I use the Norwegian method of purling, and am trying to figure out how to do pfb with this method. I tried searching for how-to videos, but all I can find are 'how to Norwegian purl' or 'how to pfb', never both. Does anyone have a video or tutorial that would help me?

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Old 06-01-2013, 01:32 PM   #2
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Good question! I'm so glad you asked. In looking around and thinking about it I tried (again!) and I finally got the Norwegian purl and I think I really like it! I didn't know Amy had a Norwegian purl video here, it was the one that finally made it click. It's amazing what Googling can do. About 160 purl sts later i think I have it and like it. Anyhow...I digress...

I was playing around and decided that for pfb I would do one of two things. 1) pbf instead, it looks like it might do the trick and was easier than trying to pfb; or 2) pick a different increase.

What'cha knittin'? Got a link? If you can't get a pfb or pbf to work to your satisfaction maybe we can help you pick a different increase.
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I LOVE Norwegian purling! It's the only purl that ever clicked for me.

I was getting ready to cast on for a small shawl called Groovy . The pattern calls for you to knit the odd rows with a kfb as the last stitch, and purl the even rows, with a pfb as the first stitch. (There's more too it, obviously, but as it's not a free pattern, I don't want to share anymore than that).

I'll play around with pbf and see how it goes. Thanks for the suggestion!
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I wonder if the M1 increase would work here. When I've wanted to replace the kfb I would knit the stitch and then do a M1 so the increase was in the same place as the kfb would put it, after the stitch that would have had the increase, but I didn't have the purl bump. You could M1p if the purl bump is important to the pattern. Groovy looks like fun!

I've done a few more rows of moss stitch and think this might be my way to purl now. I was going to ask if you might switch to regular Continental purling for the pfb but maybe that isn't an option. It would be a bit of a pain anyhow.
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Switching to regular Continental purling would be pretty difficult! I have never been able to purl that way and have it flow easily. I did a little happy dance when I learned about Norwegian purling.

I'm going to play around with different increases and see what will work. Thanks again for your advice!
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Not advice, thoughts and suggestions. What works for you is what matters. I appreciate your asking as now I can purl Norwegian and feel pretty good about it.
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I switched to Norwegian style a few years ago and this is a question I ask myself anew every time I need to pfb.
There is an NP group on Ravelry and someone recently asked this very question. There was no great answer, just a link to a regular purling video. ()
Personally, this is my least favorite increase whether I'm knitting NP, continental or English, but here's how I do mine:
-Purl the front leg as usual.
-but Don't pull the stitch off the needle!
-Position the right needle behind the back leg.
-Purl as usual including pulling the finished stitch off the needle.

Basically, it's the same directions for a regular pfb except the yarn is coming from the NP direction.
I think this increase results in an little odd little stitch that's just sorta hanging on. So I could be doing it incorrectly. I would love to know if I am doing it correctly, so I hope someone else with more experience will comment here.
Let me know if you don't understand my instructions and I'll try to post a video of this. Theoretically, my camera should be able upload to the interwebs.
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Hey, Rie, it's good to hear from someone experienced. I just tried it again and it did work doing it the way you said. I did a Continental pfb right beside it and from the front I couldn't tell a difference, there did seem to be a small difference in appearance on the back. I'm with you, it's not a fave for me either. I usually don't like kfb either and tend to replace them both with something else when I can. When I tried it before I had fewer than 200 NPs done. I've worked a few more rows now and have gone back and forth between the two methods and I really think the NP is the way I'll go from now on.
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Hey ya GrumpyGramma!

Thank you for testing both side by side - I need the outside reassurance especially with increases and decreases. I'm so glad it looks normal.
Isn't NP a great way to change it up? I only get tired of it when I have miles and miles of st st, like this sweater I'm currently working on.
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That's cute! I can knit English but I haven't yet been able to purl English. I knew I'd never want to try ribbing English, I thought Continental was made for it. Now I think ribbing with NP is going to be the way to go. I'm doing k2, p2 for moss stitch and it's easier. Yes, it's a great way to change it up. I like knowing more than one way to do things anyhow. If it looks good to you, you like it, that's what your normal is. I understand about wondering how things compare, though. I really couldn't tell much difference. I thought the little stitch looked odd when I tried it but it looks odd when I do it Continental too. It's nice to know I can do it but I still will avoid it when possible. My long history with patterns of any sort is that they're a starting point and reference guide. There is no commandment that states: Thou shalt not deviate from the pattern. Good thing, I'd just have to break it.
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