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Old 06-17-2013, 01:26 PM   #1
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I'm a United States knitter & having trouble understanding the directions in European pattern- Sublime #659 Little Constance Wrap. I'm on the 1st row of the back. I have 41 stitches. It reads: K8, k2tog, yfwd, (k9, k2tog, kfwd) 2 times, k9. I end up short 3 stitches every time because I read those directions to say 44 stitches.

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Old 06-17-2013, 01:57 PM   #2
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K8, k2tog, yfwd, (k9, k2tog, kfwd) 2 times knit 9

You use 10 stitches before the ( ), repeating between the ( ) twice uses 22 stitches, and finish with 9. That will use up 41 stitches and leave you with 44 to start the next row.
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:00 PM   #3
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Hi. Welcome to KH. Your yfwd is an increase. It's commonly interpreted to mean wyif. You probably don't need a video but her accent is so appropriate. Yarn Forward (YFWD) - Deramores Knitting Tutorial

I see Ingrid already responded but I thought your being 3 sts short and there are 3 yfwd might be the problem. I'll post it anyhow. Just in case.
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Just to clarify should the pattern read (k9, k2tog, kfwd) or (k9 k2tog, yfwd)? If it is yfwd then you will have 3 k2togs (dec) and 3 yfwds (inc), which will balance each other out, so you will start and end with 41 stitches. If it's kfwd could you let us know what instructions that pattern gives for that abbreviation?
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Originally Posted by tullyfamily View Post
I'm a United States knitter & having trouble understanding the directions in European pattern- Sublime #659 Little Constance Wrap. I'm on the 1st row of the back. I have 41 stitches. It reads: K8, k2tog, yfwd, (k9, k2tog, kfwd) 2 times, k9. I end up short 3 stitches every time because I read those directions to say 44 stitches.

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I read the directions to end with 41 stitches. 10 & (22) & 9
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You're right. End with 41. I didn't subtract for the k2tog. Sorry!
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Originally Posted by Ingrid View Post
You're right. End with 41. I didn't subtract for the k2tog. Sorry!

Now that I've had my coffee....

Ingrid, I think you were right in the first place. Using a yo or yfwd before or after the k would add the 3 sts to end with 44. I've seen a video showing what I'm thinking and I hope I can find it again. Assuming (dangerous) that the pattern is correct in ending the row with 44 sts and that what we're looking at is taken accurately from the pattern, then there must be 3 increases. Or I may be way out past left field.

I originally missed the k in the kyfwd. Off to look for a video.
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How to Knit the Yarn Forward Round Needle Increase - yfrn ( English Style)

Maybe this video is pertinent.

Does the pattern have eyelets in the spots that call for the kyfwd?
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Originally Posted by GrumpyGramma View Post
Now that I've had my coffee....

Ingrid, I think you were right in the first place. Using a yo or yfwd before or after the k would add the 3 sts to end with 44. I've seen a video showing what I'm thinking and I hope I can find it again. Assuming (dangerous) that the pattern is correct in ending the row with 44 sts and that what we're looking at is taken accurately from the pattern, then there must be 3 increases. Or I may be way out past left field.

I originally missed the k in the kyfwd. Off to look for a video.
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I'm a United States knitter & having trouble understanding the directions in European pattern- Sublime #659 Little Constance Wrap. I'm on the 1st row of the back. I have 41 stitches. It reads: K8, k2tog, yfwd, (k9, k2tog, kfwd) 2 times, k9. I end up short 3 stitches every time because I read those directions to say 44 stitches.

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I can see your logic about the 3 yfwd's adding 3 stitches, but there are also 3 k2tog's that will subtract 3 stitches. Also tullyfamily said that she starts with 41 stitches and that she's reading, or interpreting, the directions to say 44 stiches. The pattern doesn't actually say 44 stiches.
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Julie, I counted and came up with 44 when the yo made 3 more sts. Now I come up with 43. You're right, we don't actually know exactly what the pattern says. We need to see the pattern I think. I should quit avoiding the necessary and just go do housework and get rid of some clutter.
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