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Old 07-04-2013, 01:54 AM   #1
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Handy conversion guide
I find this helpful, especially as North Americans have such weird needle sizes

http://www.needlenook.com.au/conversions.htm
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:35 AM   #2
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Oh, what a handy chart. It will be good for seeing what your weird needle sizes mean! LOL

I don't know why there isn't an international standard for knitting needle sizes. It would be much less confusing. Thanks for the link.
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:37 AM   #3
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We have weird sizes?

I have a ruler/needle sizer that has that on it which is nice, too.
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Old 07-04-2013, 05:50 AM   #4
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Always good to have handy. Thanks for the link.
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I firmly believe the Australian needle size method is the best because it's based on a measurement (circumference), not some random number (like the US and British systems).

The fact that our sizes are in metric, is of course problematic to Poms and Yanks, I know ... I know ... I know.
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I agree the US should have gone metric years ago. It would be a big transition, but could be done over a period of time. Probably not for awhile though. If the numbers are in the range of 10 centimeters I can figure it out...otherwise not so much.
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:44 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by DavidSydney63 View Post
I firmly believe the Australian needle size method is the best because it's based on a measurement (circumference), not some random number (like the US and British systems).

The fact that our sizes are in metric, is of course problematic to Poms and Yanks, I know ... I know ... I know.
David, we switched over to metric sizing for knittting needles in the last century.

The only reason conversion charts and needle sizing gauges have the old UK sizes is so that if anyone is using either a pre-metric pattern or pre-metric needles they can make the correct conversion. With more and more patterns being uploaded to the internet, this is not as rare as one might think. Oh by the way, and correct me if I'm wrong, I though that pre-metric Australia used the same system as the UK (and the rest of the Commonwealth). Also the millimetres refer to the diameter of the needle.
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Old 07-04-2013, 07:12 PM   #8
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I'm pretty comfortable using metric measurements and am getting more comfortable the longer I stay in the knitting and crochet worlds. U.S. crochet hook size H/#8 = U.S. knitting needle size #8 = 5.0 mm diameter.

The real killer used to be (and, for some brands, still is ) when crochet hooks showed only the LETTER and not a number on them. What does one do with a crochet hook "size F"? There's just no way to tie it in with any reasonable sizing system. Only when my hands permitted me to return to yarnwork in 2008 did I find that hooks and needles both were now labelled with numbers and, sometimes, mm diameter as well. Hallelujah!

But what happens in the UK system when very fine needles are...ah...needed? At least one local knitting instructor has said, while demonstrating stitches in a Fair Isle class and responding to a question about lace knitting, that she's used "6-ought" size needles. This is 000000 in American terminology, 0.75 mm in metric. But the list I initially referred to on my return (http://www.fiber2yarn.com/info/needlehookchart.htm) doesn't provide UK equivalents. Do British knitters simply order from the other side of the Channel or use Continental brands?

The chart I'd like to know about is the one that translates "4-ply" and "8-ply" to terms like laceweight, fingering, sportweight, DK, worsted weight, Aran, bulky, chunky, and so on. Anybody?

Good discussion; thanks, DavidSydney63!
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There's a chart here that may helpwith ply:
http://www.ravelry.com/help/yarn/weights
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yeah - this has turned into a fascinating thread (no pun intended), thanks to Salmon for the link to ply table - this is VERY timely and VERY useful!!

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