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Old 02-27-2006, 10:43 PM   #1
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Pattern Confusion with a lil Gauging explaination please=)
1) I found this glove pattern I wanted to try and make for my friends and I ASAP, problem is the pattern calls for size 7, and I only own 6's and 8's. Which one would be better to use if the gauge say's 8 sts and 12 rows? Also Im not quite sure how to gauge, or its purpose. I've only made scarf so far just to play around with basic patterns...and I tried to look thru the forum for others asking about gauging, but i didnt quite understand and there were way too many posts to look thru. :(

2) The pattern I found starts off: Lace pattern: (multiple of 2 sts)
What does multiple of 2 sts mean

3) Also how come they give the lace pattern first, then tell me to cast on 28 st...sorry im a lil slow at this...So am I suppose to cast on the 28st first then work the rows until they ask for the lace pattern?

4) Lastly...At some point in the pattern it starts talkin about k2tog—35 sts. Where did the extra sts come from if I only cast on 28?

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Old 02-27-2006, 10:49 PM   #2
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1) you should knit a swatch with both sets of needles and see if one comes close to the gauge the pattern says it needs to be. The purpose is to make sure that it fits!

2) Multiples of 2---2,4,6,8, etc....anything that can be divided by 2 is a multiple of two. without knowing your pattern it is hard to tell what it should be but it is basically telling you, I THINK, that you should use whatever multiple of 2 will get you closest to the size you need.
3) A lot of patterns will tell you how to work a lace pattern or whatever separately from the pattern. just start where it tells you to and work the lace where it tells you to.

4) Somewhere in the pattern it should have told you to increase...see if you can find an instruction like M1 or Inc1....anything like that.
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Old 02-27-2006, 11:26 PM   #3
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I prolly should have just placed the pattern up...der der der



Finished Size About 73⁄4" (19.5 cm) circumference.
Yarn Fonty Velourine (54% cotton, 46% viscose; 120 yd
[110 m]/50 g): #611 rust, 2 balls. Yarn distributed by Russi Sales.
Needles Size 7 (4.5 mm): straight.
Gauge 8 sts and 12 rows = 2" (5 cm).

Lace pattern: (multiple of 2 sts)
Row 1: *K2tog, yo; rep from * to last 2 sts, k2tog—1 st dec’d.
Row 2: Yo, knit to end—1 st inc’d.
Repeat Rows 1 and 2 for pattern.

CO 28 sts. Work garter st (knit every row) for a total of 6 rows.
Work lace pattern for 8 rows. Work garter st for 6 rows. Cont as
foll:
Row 1: [K2tog, yo] 6 times, [k1, yo] 4 times, [k2tog, yo] 5 times, k2tog—31 sts.
Row 2: Yo, knit to end—32 sts.
Row 3: [K2tog, yo] 7 times, [k1, yo] 4 times, [k2tog, yo] 6 times,
k2tog—35 sts.
Row 4: Yo, knit to end—36 sts.
Row 5: [K2tog, yo] 17 times, k2tog—35 sts rem.
Row 6: Yo, knit to end—36 sts.
Knit 1 row. Shape thumb: [Ssk] 2 times, k28, [k2tog] 2 times—
32 sts rem. Next row: K16, use backward loop method to CO 4
sts over gap, k16—36 sts. Knit 2 rows even. Work lace pattern
for 6 rows. Work garter st for 5 rows. BO all sts kwise. With yarn
threaded on a tapestry needle, sew side seam.


Also Im NOT using the yarn they ask for, will that effect the sizing for my hand? I have a all cotten worsted yarn and and all cotten finger yarn. I was thinking thicker would be better if I'm not using the recommened size needles

and I still dont get what 8st and 12 rows = 2'' means

Does it mean when I get at about 2" into my project, I should have 8st and 12rows? >_<...but the pattern starts me off at 28 sts... :crying: S.O.S

So confused...I'll try and do a sample on both sets, I'm just not sure what to look for to kno I've gauged it right...
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cast on about 36 stitches or so for each test swatch and knit in stockinette stitch until it is about 4 inches. get out a ruler in the middle of the work count how many stitches are in 2 inches. you should have 8 stitches in that two inches. and when you measure the other way you should have 12 rows in the two inches (though in many patterns the row count isn't quite as important. If your stitch count isn't VERY close to 8 stitches in 2 inches your mitten will either be too big or two small.


In your pattern, all of those YO's are increasing your count....that's how you will get to 35 stitches.
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A gauge of 8 st and 12 rows = 2 inches means that in order for the glove to turn out the same size as the pattern says it should, you should have 4 stitches per inch and 6 rows per inch. The row measurement is not as important as the stitch measurement. You can knit more/fewer rows to adjust the row gauge.

People knit at different tensions, so the gauge the designer got when she wrote the pattern may well be different than what you get when you knit up on the same needles and yarn. If you knit a swatch, a sample that's about four inches wind and long, you can use a ruler to count how many stitches you get in 2 inches. If you get too many, you need a bigger needle. Too few, a smaller needle.

Here's how gauge is important. If you have 100 stitches on a needle and are getting 4 stitches per inch, your work will be 25 inches wide.

If you have 100 stitches on a needle and are getting 5 stitches per inch, your work will be 20 inches wide. Quite a difference for one stitch in gauge.

As for the pattern itself, follow it one row at a time.

In the beginning they tell you how many to cast on, then to knit 6 rows, lace pattern for 8 rows (they tell you how to do that in the instructions for the lace pattern above), knit 6 more rows, and then continue with the rest of the directions from there.

At the end of each row they give you a stitch count. When you finish that row, that's how many stitches you should have. There are increases in the rows.

Hope this clears some things up.
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she says it so much better than i do!! someday i will be smart like her!



make sure you pay attention to half stitches too. If you get 4.5 stitches per inch or whatever. that half stitch is important for the same reason that Ingrid mentioned!
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Originally Posted by brendajos
she says it so much better than i do!! someday i will be smart like her!



make sure you pay attention to half stitches too. If you get 4.5 stitches per inch or whatever. that half stitch is important for the same reason that Ingrid mentioned!
We said the same thing! I'm just more verbose!
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lol well that isn't usually the case in my little world but yours was much more clear than mine!
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aww you two were both awesome!!!
Its better to see things from different angles
especially when my mind is able & willing to be fed
Thanx a bunch, Ima get started ASAP
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