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Old 07-22-2006, 02:33 AM   #71
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I am tired of the government & pharmaceuticals companies telling us this is gonna kill you and that is gonna kill you.Everytime they tell us not to eat something, 5 years later they say oops guess coffee is good for ya after all I totally agree with the vaccine causing Autisum.I can't remember exactlly the % but it up like 200%,probably more, since the 80s or 90s.That is way to high in my book!They just want more money so they keep saying it's not the vaccines.Cancer is cancer and we are never gonna get away from it.The only thing they haven't said isn't gonna cause cancer is toilet paper and I'm not to sure about that I vote no on vaccine.Because I just know a few years down the road they're gonna tell us they found something wrong with it or worse yet they won't tell us and just lie about it .Look at the service men who went to war for our country and came back sick from God know what,agent orange,and they tell these poor guys it's in their heads. THIER teeth are falling out and their in pain and can't walk ,their hair is falling out and all the government can say is it's in your head .I don't trust the government or the pharmaceutical companies when it comes to them telling me what I should eat or drink or on any medical issue's say let each person decide for themselves Kids have enough cancer related stuff lets not add one more.I know,I know it's suppose to stop cancer but do you all really believe that? I don't.But then that's my personal opinion.Thank God I live in the USA so I can have one.And I think you ladies handled yourselves very well I'ts 1:30 AM so I hope I didn't rattle on to bad :D
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Old 07-22-2006, 09:57 AM   #72
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Wading in late on this topic:

I'd like to say a word in favor of teenage sexuality.

I really don't understand why sex, an important part of human behavior, is so totally separated from all other human behaviors. We don't want our children to starve; why should we want them to be non-sexual? Yes, sex is dangerous; so is driving. Yet we allow sixteen-year-olds to get behind the wheel of three-ton killing machines, and we discourage them from getting to second base! Some people are so freaky about sexuality that they discourage even masturbation -- a behavior so near universal and so harmless that it qualifies right up there with eating.

We need to give our kids the tools to make good decisions about sex. Some might choose abstinence, but I don't think that is to be particularly celebrated or condemned. We need to make birth control readily available, we need to vaccinate against (almost certain) disease, we need to keep the experience as safe as possible - and one way to do that is to acknowledge that it happens, not surround it with shame, and encourage communication.

Sex is good, sex is part of human experience; sex shouldn't be fatal, which is what the abstinence-only people, whether they realize it or not, are pushing for. They'd rather women died of cervical cancer than acknowledge that humans have sex outside of heterosexual marriage.
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Old 07-22-2006, 12:10 PM   #73
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You are absolutely right!
What have I been thinking?

If it feels good do it!
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When my sixteen year old son walks in Ask the Question! How was the sex tonight son? Yes, o that's nice, good I'm glad you had fun, any change from my twenty? Glad to hear that you are enjoying all the functions of being a human. Gee you even drove the three tons of steel down the road. And you ATE too! What priviledges we have being human!

You ran out of Ecstasy? Damn I thought I snagged enough to last you at least a month! lol. Oh well help yourself to some of your Dad's Viagra, that should make your experience even better!

Wait let me check your pockets. How come there are still three condoms in here? You really really have to start using these son! I know they don't feel as good, but hey, we've had the talk, should I get the video out again?

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I'd like to say a word in favor of teenage sexuality.

I know about sexuality. Teenage or otherwise. I also know that this society absolutely 'pivots' around it.

But DARE say abstinence. Just dare say it. No we don't want to hear about denying any of those wonderful 'rights'.


What was the government thinking making sex with minors illegal?
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Old 07-22-2006, 12:21 PM   #74
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Wow! This topic has certainly raised some important questions and provoked some very strong feelings.

Many members have commented on their gratitude for this forum in which everyone is respectful of everyone else's differences and opinions. It is this "culture" that sets KH apart from other boards. That, and the fact that we are all generally terrific and good looking.

While off-topic conversations have never been discouraged on KH, the Mods and I have been a little worried that this particular topic has come fairly close to turning into an argument.

I am in no way intending to scold, censor or accuse, I am just proud of what makes KH a real "community" and I hope that we all keep that in mind when posting in response to a "hot" topic. Arguments almost NEVER happen here, so this may seem like a bit of an overreaction and I hope I havent offended anyone. (Arguments SKEER me! )
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Old 07-22-2006, 12:46 PM   #75
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Many members have commented on their gratitude for this forum in which everyone is respectful of everyone else's differences and opinions
When this thread was kicked back up, my first thought was, wow I thought this was a done deal. I thought everyone that had anything to say about it already had.
I realized that there are many that Need to talk about it. Need to tell someone what is happening to them. Need to vent frustration. Need to release the fear, aggrevation.
Hot Topic.
Indeed
In a community of caring individuals, it is obvious that this thread is a balm, for many. A necessary outlet.
I would hope that the owners of this board could see that.
It is not an argument.
It is a discussion regarding an incredibly horrid part of our lives today.
Sexually Transmited Diseases, and how to deal with them.
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The Mods and I have decided to lock this thread to further comment. We feel strongly about the friendly and respectful environment that has been created by the KH membership, and feel that this thread is leaning a little too close to stepping over that line.

Please know that, as stated above, off-topic discussions are certainly not discouraged here. They are part of what has encouraged the formation of some great friendships via KH. However, in order to support the comfort of the majority of our membership, we needed to step in once in a great while.
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