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Old 11-09-2006, 11:41 PM   #1
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M1 knitwise and purlwise for bikini
Very new, please help. I have a bikini pattern that calls for these instructions to begin increase;

Row1: K1, P1, K1, M1 knitwise [P1, K1] to last 6 sts, M1 Knitwise, K1, P1, K3
Row2: Keeping all sts correct, work to end of row
Row3:K3, P1, K1, M1 purlwise, [K1, P1] to last 5 sts, M1 purlwise, K1, P1, K3
Row4: Keeping all sts correct, work to end of row

My question is, what increase stitch should I use? I tried the bar increase on the site but it does not really follow the pattern and leaves a visible V where the pattern starts to increase. Or maybe I should be asking, what am I ding wrong? Thanks for any help, rachele
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Old 11-09-2006, 11:46 PM   #2
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The M1 increase should be pretty much invisible, but you have to make sure you knit or purl into the small loop--not the diagonal strand.

For the knit, pick up the bar from front to back with the left tip and knit into the small loop at the back of the needle.

For the purl, pick up the bar from back to front with the left tip and purl into the little loop at the front.
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Old 11-09-2006, 11:55 PM   #3
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My other question was, when I made the M1, I would end up with 2 K1's, don't I need to make a M1 that is a K1 followed by a P1 to follow the K1 P1 pattern? If this makes any sense.
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Old 11-10-2006, 12:21 AM   #4
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I understand what you're saying.

I'd stick with what the pattern says and see how it looks. It seems pretty specific about where the stitches are placed, so there must be a reason for it.
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Old 11-10-2006, 09:56 AM   #5
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I didn't know you could make a M1 knitwise or purlwise. I just thought M1 was just a knit. That is good info to remember. Thanks. I did notice once when I did a M1 it made a hole and the Kfb did not. i thought the M1 was suppose to be the most invisable one.
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Old 11-10-2006, 10:05 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by candy
i thought the M1 was suppose to be the most invisable one.
I think KRL and KLL are usually regarded as the most invisible, but I'm sure personal preference comes into it a lot. Right now I'm liking closed eyelet a lot (it goes by other names too; can't remember what at the moment). It's basically doing a YO and then knitting through the back loop of the YO on the next row. For me it looks neater than M1R and M1L, which tend to be too tight, even though they are the same, structurally speaking. As with anything else, YMMV.
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I just watched the video on KRL and KLL. Is one suppose to lean the right and one to the Left, I could not tell. THe one you said about YO the row below is something I have never heard of. I guess you would have to look ahead to see where your inc is going to be.
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I just watched the video on KRL and KLL. Is one suppose to lean the right and one to the Left, I could not tell.
Yeah, they are. I just remembered that one drawback of those is that you need at least one row in between increases or it could pull. I really haven't used it very often, but lots of knitters seem to like it.
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Originally Posted by janelanespaintbrush
Originally Posted by candy
i thought the M1 was suppose to be the most invisable one.
I think KRL and KLL are usually regarded as the most invisible, but I'm sure personal preference comes into it a lot. Right now I'm liking closed eyelet a lot (it goes by other names too; can't remember what at the moment). It's basically doing a YO and then knitting through the back loop of the YO on the next row. For me it looks neater than M1R and M1L, which tend to be too tight, even though they are the same, structurally speaking. As with anything else, YMMV.
And the M1R/L pull on the stitches next to them, so when you use it on a raglan increase, half the stitches between them are much smaller than the others. I used KRL/KLL on the one I'm working on at the moment and really like that. I'll have to give that closed eyelet one a try on the next project.

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