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Old 12-01-2006, 01:01 AM   #1
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need help glove pattern
I've chosen a pattern from knitting pattern central in my quest to understand gloves. http://wendyknits.net/knit/mitts.htm

I wanted to keep things simple so I figured this one would work because I dont have to make the 4 fingers, just the thumb. The first part was easy enough, but I want to make sure I'm following it correctly. I've gotten up to the point where it says starting the thumb gusset and thats where things get a bit unsure.

"Round 1: K1, place marker, make a stitch by picking up a loop between the stitch you just knit and the next stitch and knitting into that loop, k1, make a stitch, place marker, knit to the end of the round."

does this mean knit 1, place marker, and just increase a stitch?, knit 1, increase again, place marker, and knit to the end of round?

i used the increase method shown in the Nici McNally Complete Beginners Guide to Knitting where you put the needle behind the yarn that sits horizontal between the stitch you just knit and the stitch next in line, and then you knit that

the directions say to knit the entire next round and then
"Repeat these two rounds until you have 11 stitches in between the markers. Knit 3 rounds further."

im not sure what it means by 11 stitches in between the markers.. i cant figure how youd get 11 stiches from the increases when youre just continuing to k1, mark, m1, k1, mark. how would the # of stiches between the 2 markers increase?

maybe its something that will make sense when i try to continue, but i cant really visualize it at all.

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Old 12-01-2006, 01:41 AM   #2
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Increases
You're doing those increases every 2 rounds. Every time you do an increase round, you create two more stitches between the markers.

M s s s M
here you have 3 stitches between the markers, for example. On the next increase round you will slip the marker, you'll have M s s s left on the needle. You make a new one, then knit the three, then make another one, then slip the marker.

You'll end up with M S s s s S M, where the capital Ss are the newly created stitches, the small s represents one of the original three.

I think your confusion is because it says 'place marker'. That's what you do on the first round. On future rounds, you are just slipping the same marker over to the next needle, so you're increasing between them.

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Old 12-01-2006, 12:22 PM   #3
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your explanation makes more sense. i'll try that, thanks
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Old 12-01-2006, 12:44 PM   #4
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I have made those fingerless mittens/gloves several times now and that is exactlly what you do (what Redwitch said!)...keep the markers where they are and increase between them...


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Old 12-01-2006, 12:48 PM   #5
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ive never used markers before (right now im using little rubber bands instead of 'real' ones), so its often hard for me to imagine how they get passed along in a project, if you keep sliding them, or knitting over them or what. but thanks for the confirmation on the directions, once i get through this pattern the whole way im sure i will understand things better.
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Old 12-02-2006, 01:41 AM   #6
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I'm stuck again.
same pattern, I'm up to the part where i just finished creating 11 stitches between my markers. after 3 rounds of knit to do it says :

"Next round: K1, remove marker, place the next 11 stitches on a length of yarn, cast on 2 stitches using the backwards loop method, remove marker, knit to the end of the round.

Knit 4 more rounds, decrease 1 stitch over the 2 cast-on stitches over the thumb-hole on the last round."


can someone maybe shed some light on this? do i tranfer the 11 stitches to a separate piece of yarn? what is the backwards loop method? i dont understand where/how to cast on 2 stitches. i also dont understand what it means by decreasing a stitch over the co stitches and over the thumbhole on the last round. im thrown off by the word over.. and i dont see how there is a thumbhole when i havnt made a hole yet.
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Old 12-02-2006, 10:02 AM   #7
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To put the stitches on piece of yarn, thread it throught the loops with a tapestry needle. If you don't have one, you can thread dental floss through with a regular needle, just make sure that you don't catch the yarn.

Check out the videos for the backward loop cast on in the Basic Techniques section.

When they say over they mean at the same spot in the row where you cast on the stitches.

You will have a thumbhole after you put the stitches on the yarn and continue the rounds.
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Old 12-02-2006, 10:15 PM   #8
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this is what i have so far

i just knit 1 and threaded a scrap piece of yarn through the 11 stitches.
i dont understand what to do next

do i pull the 11 stitches off the needle?
where do i cast on the 2 stitches? casting on in the middle of a project really doesnt make sense to me.
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Old 12-02-2006, 10:23 PM   #9
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Yes, the stitches that you now have a scrap yarn threaded through need to be taken off the needle. The working yarn will be coming from the first stitch on the right hand needle and with that yarn you will cast on 2 stitches, the backward loop method is the easiest in my opinion. If you aren't sure how to do that, see this page for a video. Backward loop casts stitches directly onto the right needle so those new stitches won't actually be knitted until the following round. After you cast on 2, the first stitch you knit will be the first one that is on the left needle (the stitches on scrap yarn will be between the working yarn and the first stitch to be knitted). It will be basically like joining in the round again at this point, and from now on you will be working in the round, ignoring the stitches that are on scrap yarn. They will be worked later when you go back to make the thumb.
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thank you so much, that made total sense =)
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