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Old 03-22-2007, 12:03 AM   #1
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convert shoulder shaping to 3 needle bind off
I want to do a 3 needle bind off
My pattern says
Shape shoulders
Cast off 10 sts at the beg of next 6 rows.
Cast off rem 43 sts


So do I just knit accross the 6 rows of bind offs without binding off and then just bind off the 43 sts when I get to them
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Old 03-22-2007, 12:23 AM   #2
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How about short rows? Instead of binding off, on the previous row stop and turn when you have 10 sts left, then 20, 30, etc until you've got all 103 stitches left. Then put on a holder until you're ready to do the BO

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Old 03-22-2007, 08:59 AM   #3
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short rows?
I have never done short rows before and would like to learn. Isn't short rows for making a gusset? How is short rows done for shoulder shaping?
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Short rows can be done for shoulder shaping as well as for increasing in the bust area, heels, and just shaping in general.

For how to do it for shoulders, reread the post where I suggested it. You would work across the back, stop a few stitches from the armhole edge, turn, work across, stop when you have the same number of stitches left on the other edge, turn, work until the same number of stitches from the previous turn (not the edge, where you turned before) and turn again. Repeat.

For a pattern that uses short row shaping, look up Calorimetry from Knitty. It's a headband/half hat pattern that curves from the shaping.

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Old 03-22-2007, 11:37 AM   #5
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Re: convert shoulder shaping to 3 needle bind off
Originally Posted by momwolf
I want to do a 3 needle bind off
My pattern says
Shape shoulders
Cast off 10 sts at the beg of next 6 rows.
Cast off rem 43 sts


So do I just knit accross the 6 rows of bind offs without binding off and then just bind off the 43 sts when I get to them
Is this the front or the back of the sweater?

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Since the pattern states BO 10 sts at the beginning of the next 6 rows and ends up with 43 stitches (which would be 103 originally) I'm thinking it must be the back.

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Old 03-22-2007, 01:55 PM   #7
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short row
I am not really understanding how you are suppose to do this, so I will have to wait until I get to that point on my sweater so I can see what it is doing. What happens to all the sts that you left and did not knit?
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You can either do one last row with them and pick them all up, or leave them for the 3 needle BO.

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It's the back.So I can't just knit the sts till I get to the neck bind off and then put them no st holders?Do the short rows do the shaping that I won't get with just knitting them?Guess I don't understand why the short rows?Usually I just follow what the pattern says.
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Hi,

Yes, the short rows take care of the shaping for the back of the shoulders.
You'll end up with the 30 shoulder stitches on each side having a gentle slope up from the outside edge of the shoulder toward the neck.

I'd just leave them on the needle until you bind off the 43 back of the neck stitches, then slip each set of 30 onto waste yarn until you're ready to do the 3 needle bind off.

If you think about the original instructions when you BO the 10 stitches at the beginning of each row you are then knitting 10 less stitches on each subsequent row. By doing short rows you just don't knit those ten stitches instead of decreasing by binding off.

You also get a smoother shoulder line than the 'stair step' look you sometimes get by binding off.

Hope this helps!

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