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Old 06-17-2007, 04:10 PM   #11
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While I'm not gonna shake a fist at anyone, I think that our country's Declaration of Independence make this argument moot.

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Backed by the 14th amendment as brendajos stated, and supported by the logic that gay marriage harms no one, it makes no sense that this is even an issue. We could all stand a little more love around us.
 
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Old 06-17-2007, 04:17 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by kellycarr05 View Post
I noticed that everyone who has posted to this thread seems to be in favor of homosexual marriage. I also noticed that several of you have expressed frustration at those who donít agree with you. ...
The point is that we continue to discuss. I realize that most of you will disagree with me, and that I will not change your opinion in this short post. I hope, though, that you will not consider everyone who opposes homosexuality as a bigot, intolerant, or other such similar term. We do not hate the person, even if we hate what we (very strongly) perceive to be sin.
I am commend you for taking a stand. Yes, I completely agree with you also, we are to never hate the person, we are to hate the sin. I have family and friends who are very aware of my position and they know we still love them very much, even if we do not support their choice and have expressed to them our belief this is against what the Bible and the Lord instructs us. As Kelly pointed out please don't lump us all together and assume we are all horrible persons because we choose to voice our disagreement with it.
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Old 06-17-2007, 04:27 PM   #13
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Old 06-17-2007, 05:19 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by feministmama View Post
It's pride this weekend in PDX http://www.pridenw.org/

I gotta organize some rainbow knitting for next year. Anybody have any good rainbow/pride knit patterns?



I don't have a pattern, but I'd love to see some to make gifts for a couple of friends :D.
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My good sense tells me to stay out of this, but my strong opinions won't let me. I want to say unequivocally that there are plenty of Christians who believe we are faithful to the teachings of the Bible who don't interpret it the same way. The Bible also supports slavery, the oppression of women, forbids eating shell fish, etc., but we've managed to place those ideas in their historic context and move on. My own congregation has been fully inclusive of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgendered people for over 20 years. We celebrate God's wildly inclusive love for all God's children. My church had a table at the Pride Festival yesterday, and we proudly marched with our banner in the Pride March as a group for many, many years. If we're going to err, we choose to err on the side of love and acceptance. I looked around the sanctuary this morning during our worship service, and I was filled with joy that the congregation included people of different sexual orientations, races, ages, educational backgrounds, and economic condition. It makes me happy just to be part of the family in my church.

I don't mean to criticize other's interpretation of the Bible, I just want to mention that other faithful Christians read it a bit differently.

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I'm going to assert my Mod power here and lock this thread. It's waaay to sensitive an issue for a Knitting forum. Nobody likes to be called a sinner or bigot. The potential for hurt feelings is just too much.

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I was trying to figure out how to lock it and you moved it. Either way is fine with me.
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