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Old 09-12-2007, 12:22 PM   #1
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shaping armhole/pattern confusion question
ok, so I want to make the boatneck sweater featured in the new knit.1 magazine (p.46, if you have it). I've read through the directions several times now and I don't get the section under "shape the armhole"
It reads: "Bind off 4 sts at beg of next 2 rows.
Row 1 and all WS rows Purl.
Row 2 K2,p1, k to last 3 sts, p1, K2
Row 4 (dec row) K2, p1,k1, ssk, k to last 6 sts, k2tog, k1,p1, k2.
Now, this is what I don't get:
Working in pat as est'ed, rep dec row every 8th row 5 (0,0,0,0,0) times, every 6th row 0(3,0,0,0,0), every 4th row 0(6,10,9,7,3) times, every other row 0(0,2,6,11,19) times - 46 sts.
How do you do all that if you are supposed to be following the pattern as established?
For example, row 6 in the pattern is not a decrease row.
Sorry this was so long but I didn't know how to condense it and still get my question across.
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Old 09-12-2007, 01:06 PM   #2
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Row 4 (dec row) K2, p1,k1, ssk, k to last 6 sts, k2tog, k1,p1, k2.
This is your decrease row.

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Working in pat as est'ed, rep dec row every 8th row 5 (0,0,0,0,0) times, every 6th row 0(3,0,0,0,0), every 4th row 0(6,10,9,7,3) times, every other row 0(0,2,6,11,19) times - 46 sts.
If you are making the smallest size you would repeat the decrease row on every 8th row five times.

If you are making the next size up you would repeat the decrease row every 6th row three times then every 4th row six times.

And so on and so forth.

Once all your decreases are done you will be left with 46 stitches.
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See all those 0s in parentheses ((0,0,0,0,0) and the other numbers (4th row 0(6,10,9,7,3)? Those are the instructions for different sizes. So for the smallest size, you dec every 8th row 5 times and that's it. For the next size you dec every 6th row 4 times, then every 4th row 6 times. For the next size, dec every 4th row 10 times, then every other row twice. And so forth for the other sizes. If your size has a 0 in it, you skip that instruction and go on to the next one. The different dec instructions are to make all sizes end up with 46 stitches.
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Thank you for answering my post. I don't think that I did a good job of posing my question. I understand that all those different numbers correspond to the size that you are knitting. I'm going to knit the small. What I don't understand is how you repeat the decrease row every sixth row and every fourth row if you are supposed to be working in the established 4 row pattern. The sixth row wouldn't be the decrease row, it would be row 2 of the pattern.
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You work the pattern as established between the decreases in that row.
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But there is only one row in the four row established pattern that is a decrease row.
Row 1 and row 3 are both purled and row 2 is a knit row with 1x1 rib on the ends and row 4 is the decrease row.
So if you follow that pattern I don't understand how you can knit a decrease row every sixth row. It seems to me that it would row 2 of the pattern.
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But there is only one row in the four row established pattern that is a decrease row.
Row 1 and row 3 are both purled and row 2 is a knit row with 1x1 rib on the ends and row 4 is the decrease row.
So if you follow that pattern I don't understand how you can knit a decrease row every sixth row. It seems to me that it would row 2 of the pattern.
It seems to me that all decreases would be done on the RS as opposed to the purled WS.

Row 2 is k2, p1, knit to last three stitches, p1, k2 not k1, p1 at the ends. All decreasing is done before/after the k2, p1/p1, k2 bits.
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Actually, having thought it through further - completely disregard the fact that those rows are numbered because it's throwing you off track.

Think of it as every even row, bar the decreases, as row 2, all odd rows are purled.

Does that help at all?

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OK I think I get it.
So, even thought the pattern says that row 2 is K2, p1, k to last 3 sts, p1, k2, when I need this row to be a decrease row I just do what it says to do in row 4 (ssk and k2tog) in between the K2, p1/p1,k2 bits.
Please tell me that I'm at the very least on the right track.
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OK I think I get it.
So, even thought the pattern says that row 2 is K2, p1, k to last 3 sts, p1, k2, when I need this row to be a decrease row I just do what it says to do in row 4 (ssk and k2tog) in between the K2, p1/p1,k2 bits.
Please tell me that I'm at the very least on the right track.

Yep! You got it!!

So, rows 2 and 4 would be the k2, p1, knit to last three stitches, p1, k2 then row 6 would be your decrease row.
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