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Old 10-12-2007, 04:00 PM   #11
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i didn't get angry at tiers, or anyone else. even rant on my blog isn't an angry rant.

tiers, started by indicating that she included some garter stitches at the edge (by implication she is at least familiar with the idea that stocking knit curls--Quote: "I thought the garter on the edge would keep it relatively flat".

I think stocking knit is an interesting stitch.. a useful stitch, and attractive stitch. but stocking knit curl.

many knitters (new and old knitters alike!) come up with suggestions..
edging (the stocking will roll at the edging!)
gauge (loose rather than tight knitting--but that just makes loose curling vs tight curling..)
blocking (which works somewhat with wool--but not at all with synthetics--still the yarn involved is wool)

the answer is:
Stocking knit curls.
Seaming will resolve
knitting in a tube will resolve
double knitting will resolve.

but single layer stocking knit curls.
this is not being angry. this is being factual.
this is the nature of stocking knit stitch. it is reality.
its not a fault of stocking knit.
It just is.

and it's good for new knitters, who perhaps don't have much experience with stocking knit, to learn.

Adding edging can be a wonderful thing.. if that is what you want. but if you add an edging, its no longer a plain stocking knit scarf.

Personally, i love stocking knit scarves. i've knit them flat, and seamed them, i knit them in the round, and i have double knit them. (and as a result, i never have had 'problems' with them curling!)

i have also knit stocking knit flat, and used the curl! I've made hats with stocking knit and reversed stocking knit.. (and let the two 'balance' each other!) to get both flat and textured (ridged) effects.
same with socks.. alternating rows of stocking knit/reverse stocking knit makes a get puffy--or "slouch" leg/cuff to a sock.. (or glove!)

There are other options beside the ones i've listed--things that look like stocking knit.. (but aren't!)
but if you (or anyone!) knits a scarf (or any other flat piece of knitting) that is mostly stocking knit--it's going to curl!

and stating that, recognizing that is recognizing facts.

There are lots of things these days being knit with out facing/hems/edging.. that are blocked and photographed and 'shown' flat.
and if you live your life as model, and have a crew of people round to steam and block the scarf every time its worn, you, too can have a beautiful flat single layer stocking knit scarf.

30 years ago, Maggie Righetti wrote about knit garments in photoshoots, and how photo's can lie and its still a feature of todays knitted photoshoots!

but if you live in the real world, make the real world recognition-- stocking knit curls..

and then maybe, begin to see, stocking knit curls, see it as feature.. make use of it! revel in the nature of the stitch, and stop trying to knit flat scarves from a stitch that curls!
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:37 PM   #12
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of troy -- no one's arguing that stockinette curls. The OP, as you say, knows/implies that stockinette curls; the issue wasn't so much "augh my nice flat stockinette stitch is CURLING" so much as "The method I used to balance out the curl didn't work well enough, what else can I do?"

(your post -- and blog rant -- did come across as a little angrier than I think you intended. In part, I think, because the way it was phrased made it sound like the people posting in this thread, and similar threads, didn't realize that it did that. You're definitely right, though, that there can be some neat effects accomplished by taking advantage of the curling [rather than trying to defeat it].)
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I had a feeling I should have gartered more - now I have an idea of where to start if I do another stockingetter scarf thanks! Tiersa
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:58 PM   #14
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I was using a pattern on the links page that looked mostly flat so thought mine would as well. It was my first attempt at the stockingette for more than a block in a class group afghan. I mearly wanted to see if there was anything I could do now that I did not get what I expected and what should I do in the future if I wanted to try it again.
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