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Old 12-24-2007, 07:27 PM   #1
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Yarn departments closing
I realize that there are a lot of people in the forum that don't use WalMart. (Quite frankly, I wish I didn't have to, but to get to a Michael's or Hobby Lobby, I have to drive 90-100 miles, and with Hobby Lobby closed on Sunday which is my only day off.....) But, for those of us that do, I'm sure lots of us have noticed the reduction in the yarn/fabric/craft department. Some stores have completely done away with fabric, some are doing away with yarn (or cutting it WAY down), and my local WalMart has done away with embroidery supplies. I was talking this over with the gal in charge of that department, and she said there were several women (some of them older ladies) who were literally in tears because they couldn't get embroidery supplies anywhere close anymore. (The WalMart credo - move in and obliterate any small business that is in competition with you, then eliminate the very services you usurped.....anyway, that's my opinion). She suggested that everyone having a problem with the disappearing craft section call the corporate offices (listed on their website)...or 1-800-WALMART (if I can post that) and let them know how much they are hurting the consumer. There needs to be a lot of feedback on these cutbacks if we want them to even start to rethink their decision.
Just a thought I figured I'd throw out there.
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Old 12-24-2007, 07:48 PM   #2
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they're doing away with crafts altogether. my DSS works at WM.. they're severely scaling back....

which means that i will have to drive either an hour to albany or 45 minutes to saratoga for a decent supply of yarn... the joann's in amsterdam is pathetic and theyr'e doing away with their yarn section too.
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Old 12-24-2007, 09:33 PM   #3
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Old 12-24-2007, 09:53 PM   #4
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I posted something about this a while back. Wal Mart is scaling back it's crafts department. A woman in our local store told me that there will only be six feet of shelf space for yarn very soon. Wal Mart hates knitters.
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Originally Posted by miccisue View Post
The WalMart credo - move in and obliterate any small business that is in competition with you, then eliminate the very services you usurped.....anyway, that's my opinion.
It's not really an opinion, that's just how they do business. And it sucks, for small businesses, consumers, and communities.
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Old 12-24-2007, 10:11 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by miccisue View Post
(The WalMart credo - move in and obliterate any small business that is in competition with you, then eliminate the very services you usurped.....anyway, that's my opinion) Just a thought I figured I'd throw out there.
Now I wonder, is it your opnion, Only your opinion if it has been proven time and time again over the past 15+ years?
My Sister used to work for this GREAT little Mom & Pop Drugstore with an honest to goodness Soda Jerk and everything. Walmart came in after convincing the town that they were NOT gonna slash and burn the competition in order to get their build permits. 3 months after they opened up, her boss went down to the store and was able to find nearly HALF the things he carried (non perscription) at less than HALF PRICE for what he could BUY them for. so forget mark up, he was being undercut before he even ordered in his supplies. 1 year after he and 2 of the 4 other M & P shops closed down, the Medication isle prices went back to normal, occassionally undercutting a advertised sale from a competator, but not really needing to. They had all the repete customers they needed to stay in buisness.
I avoid that place like the PLAGUE, and for a nurse, Plague is something to AVOID.
we still have 2 LYS and one quilting shop that openned just after the last original fabric shop had to close due to inability to compete, even with loyal customers.

the crafting departments are drying up VERY quickly, and the quality is going first, to justify the 'hey, there ARE no customers for this stuff, so why bother' mentality they seem to have

just my observations, and my fathers from when he was alive and we used to discuss such things.

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Now I wonder, is it your opnion, Only your opinion if it has been proven time and time again over the past 15+ years?
My Sister used to work for this GREAT little Mom & Pop Drugstore with an honest to goodness Soda Jerk and everything. Walmart came in after convincing the town that they were NOT gonna slash and burn the competition in order to get their build permits. 3 months after they opened up, her boss went down to the store and was able to find nearly HALF the things he carried (non perscription) at less than HALF PRICE for what he could BUY them for. so forget mark up, he was being undercut before he even ordered in his supplies. 1 year after he and 2 of the 4 other M & P shops closed down, the Medication isle prices went back to normal, occassionally undercutting a advertised sale from a competator, but not really needing to. They had all the repete customers they needed to stay in buisness.
I avoid that place like the PLAGUE, and for a nurse, Plague is something to AVOID.
we still have 2 LYS and one quilting shop that openned just after the last original fabric shop had to close due to inability to compete, even with loyal customers.

the crafting departments are drying up VERY quickly, and the quality is going first, to justify the 'hey, there ARE no customers for this stuff, so why bother' mentality they seem to have

just my observations, and my fathers from when he was alive and we used to discuss such things.

happy holidays, upcoming and past

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Oh, you are absolutely right - WalMart (hate, hate) is the devil incarnate, IMHO. But, the fact does remain that for some of us, they are basically all that we have left unless we travel (sometimes quite a distance) or buy online. If you're trying to cut back on credit card debt, the online thing can be difficult unless you find someone who will accept money orders. So, in spite of the fact that I hate shopping there (I only go in for things I can't get anywhere else - like McCormick spices...none of the local groceries carry McCormick brand anymore and I've had the best luck with McCormick stuff being consistent in taste as opposed to other spices, and yarn being the two major things I can think of) there are times I am basically forced to (sweats are another thing - they have the pants in petite lengths, all the other stores just have regulars, and being 5' tall, the regulars are just waaaayyy too long).
I figure they've destroyed enough small businesses in town - we had 3 or 4 fabric stores, and they all carried yarn as well but of course they got beaten to death by Wally World - it's time for them to have their feet put to the fire by the consumers.
Hmmm.....maybe even if you'd never, ever, ever shop there, you ought to call and complain anyway. Besides helping out the people who do rely on them for fabric, yarn, embroidery goods, and other craft stuff, you can look on it as payback for booting all the nice little mom and pop places out of business.
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Well, to be the other side... I hate to hear the are doing away with the craft items, becuz when your child informs you 10 o'clock at nite he has to have 3 yards of fabric and thread for a school project the next day... where else can you go?? I had heard they were getting rid of the yarn and such, but since I have a HobLob close, I didn't really get concerned for myself, but felt it for the rest of the folks that didn't have an alternative... I will call the number and support!

The M&P's can't do the 24 hours -- the other chains don't offer it either.... and that saves a lot of last minute folks like me. But I live in a large city... so we have a wide variety of stores small and large.. but I need the Wal-marts more than I can do with out them.... sorry..... I mean, where else can you shop at 11pm??? They have spoiled me.... But I have also put in my sacrifices... My husband works for Sam's... and that would be another conversation... as I am sure the other Wal-Mart employees and families could attest to.

**I have heard they have ways of getting things to prices they want to offer.... Consider(hypothetical brands here),,, you are Eveready batteries... they tell you... we want to sell them for this price or they don't go on our shelves... There sit the Duracells.... Hmmmm whose stock goes up? NO, not fair... but here we are....
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I'm a democratic socialist, so Wal-Mart is basically the antithesis to my working theory of Life, the Universe and Everything.

Because of the way they do business, they make sure they are the only place a consumer has to shop and once they rule the market, they set all the rules: what they will or will not supply and in what quantities and in what areas and for what price. It's an oligarchy and I despise it.

I live in rural Arkansas. The Wal-Mart pestilence started in this area because this is exactly the sort of area that is ripe for it: economically depressed and not particularly diverse.

I buy as much as I can from independent sources and I'm very into making whatever I can by hand. I know that makes me sound very cruchy granola, but I'm not particularly. I just appreciate and support my fellow man in whatever ways I can. That being said, there have been times where Wal-Mart was pretty much my only option. I couldn't afford the independent stores at the time and economy was necessity.

My dad owned his own business right up until he died earlier this year. I have nothing but respect for small business owners and their families. It can be hard and dad's field isn't even Wal-Mart-able.

Urgh. I'm rambling. I just hate to see this happen.
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Old 12-25-2007, 03:39 AM   #10
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Walmart does not put small "mom and Pop's " out of business.. the consumers (You) do, by not shopping there... if the consumers (you)
stop shopping at Walmart, you can put Walmart out of business..
But,.. someone must be shopping there, it is the worlds largest retailer..It is just "politically correct " to hate Walmart.. It is no different than Target or kmart...I don't have a Walmart near me, so I don't get to shop there often.,, but I did visit one a couple weeks ago, and the prices were very low, There were lot of people buying Christmas presents, and I thought to myself, how great it was to be able to buy all your Christmas presents there.. I bought the new Eagles CD..below $15.. Don't you think that is a good service for some of us who may not be able to shop at higher end stores??
I feel Walmart provides products to lower income wage earners that they may never be able to afford otherwise...I heard an economist say that Walmart has single handedly kept inflation down in this country..just my opinion..Merry Christmas!
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