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Old 01-10-2008, 04:10 PM   #1
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Next row after a yarn over
I'm practicing a swatch in a pattern that is called "Bird's eye". It's my first time attempting "yarn over". I think the basic concept is that for each "yarn over" you are adding a stitch (which makes a hole - all be it decorative). This pattern calls for k2tog, yo twice, k2tog for the 1st row. No problem. Then the next row says k1, k1 in yo of previous row, p1 in next yo, k1; rep. I'm not sure what it means...."k1 in yo of previous row, p1 in next yo." Could someone help me decifer this? Thank you.
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Old 01-10-2008, 04:16 PM   #2
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This appears to have a garter stitch ground (return rows are knit) - BUT. . .
If you try to knit, knit into a double YO you will not succeed. So you k1, p1, at the double YO.
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Old 01-10-2008, 04:31 PM   #3
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I've done this pattern, it's very pretty. Yes, you knit into the first loop of the YO, p1 into the second loop. That's 1st and 2nd as you come to them on this row, not the order you did them in on the last row.
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Thanks for responding so quickly. You're right that you can't knit into a double YO - what a time I had last night!! HA! In essence I have a stitch I can knit into, then there is the stitch that is looped over the needle - are you saying that I should not knit into that stitch, but go onto the next one and purl?
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Thank you. I think I understand now. I'll try again tonight and see what I come up with. I've also looked in the Knitting Answer Book (love it!) and that's helped to explain it a bit more. It's trial and error at this point. Thanks again!
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The double yarnover creates 2 sts; you have to treat each YO as a separate st.
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Look at your needle: every single loop over the needle is a stitch.
The yos, when you are new to them, feel wrong, and loose, and you will think they are a disaster or you have screwed up. That's what yos are like though so take a deep breath and pretend they are normal stitches. Even though it feels wrong.

k1 in yo means knit that stitch (they are just providing additional information that it is the stitch that was just made as a yo).

You will probably have normal stitches then TWO loops around the needle: knit one and then purl one, or do whatever the pattern instructs, but treat them like a normal stitch. FYI I consider myself an experienced knitter but this particulkar pattern was not easy when I did it, so remember it's not you: it's a funny stitch pattern. Good luck.
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Thanks for the help. I tried again last night and had difficulty again. But, I refuse to give up. The pattern on the return row is k1, k1 into yo stitch, p1 into yo stitch, k1 - so...I k1, k1 into the yo stitch, don't let the whole loop drop off but, instead, p1 into this loose loop, then k1 into the next stitch which is not a part of the yo? Is that right? Also, it seems that with all the k2togethers that I'm constantly decreasing the number of stitches I started with. Ends up looking like a triangle.
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yes, your interpretation of the second row is correct. You shouldn't be losing stitches though - becasue you make 2 out of the yo's to balance the two k2tog's .


if ^ = k2tog; O = yarnover, x = knit and - = purl


xx - xxx - x x x -x = return row
^OO^^OO^^OO^ = row 1

the repeat uses 4 stitches and creates 4 stitches.
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Thank you so much, MMario! I think I get it now. I imagine that once I can manage more than 6 rows without tearing my hair out the pattern will start to emerge and I'll know if it looks right. It's very weird purling into a loop that isn't "on the needle" exactly. The pattern is pretty but someone demented (or brilliant) invented it! Thanks again.
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