02-27-2008, 03:43 PM #1 Kalasin Casting On   Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts How to read a pattern repeat Hello! I'm a relatively new knitter and new to this forum. I have a question! I'm knitting my first pattern with lace, and it's also my first pattern with a knitting graph. I tried to look up how to follow a graph with a pattern repeat everywhere, but most simply say "and repeat the pattern." However, simply repeating the pattern has ended up with what looks like someone has done lace while drunk. The part that follows the graph looks perfect, but as soon as I start the repeats, it looks awful! Here is the graph: k k k k k ( k k k k k k ) k k k k k 8 k \ o k k ( \$ o k o \$ o ) k o \$ o k 7 k k k k k ( k k k k k k ) k k k k k 6 k o \$ o k ( o \$ o k o \$ ) o k o / k 5 k k k k k ( k k k k k k ) k k k k k 4 k k o \$ o ( k o \$ o k o ) \$ o k o / 3 k k k k k ( k k k k k k ) k k k k k 2 \ o k o \$ ( o k o \$ o k ) o \$ o k k 1 k = knit o = Yo \ = Ssk / = K2tog \$ = Sl1, k2tog, psso ( ) = pattern repeat I've been following it right from left, but I'm not sure what to do once I get to the end and have to pattern repeat. Please help?

 02-27-2008, 04:16 PM #2 Abbily Instepping Out     Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 2,996 Thanks: 458 Thanked 1,603 Times in 1,120 Posts Typically you read a chart from top to bottom... but you don't read every line from right to left. You read it the way you knit- so line one is read right to left, line 2 is left to right, line 3 is right to left, etc. (unless you're knitting in the round- then you read them all right to left). The repeat part works like this. Say you have cast on 20 stitches and you're doing this line from a chart: ppppp(kkkkk)ppppp the repeat is the (kkkkk) so... you purl 5, then knit 5 and repeat that until you are left with only 5 stitches left; in this case you would k5 twice. Then you purl the last 5. Does that make sense? Here's a chart reading tutorial: http://www.knitpicks.com/images/pdf/charttutorial.pdf __________________ Carey Mommy to two wonderful girls "I don't have to conform to the vagaries of time and space, I'm a loony!" -Campbell Bain (David Tennant) 'Takin' Over the Asylum' OTN: Cabled Sweater, arm warmers, kids' clothes
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 02-27-2008, 05:09 PM #3 MMario Turning the Heel   Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 685 Thanks: 7 Thanked 193 Times in 176 Posts to me it lookms like part of the graph is missing - or a repeat is marked incorrectly - particularly row 5 looks wonky. __________________ MMario - *REAL* men knit LACE
 02-27-2008, 05:18 PM #4 MMario Turning the Heel   Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 685 Thanks: 7 Thanked 193 Times in 176 Posts the repeat in row 1 uses 5 stitches and creates 6 row 2 repeat is 6 stitches row 3 uses 5 stitches and create 6 row 5 uses 7 stitches to create 6 row 7 also uses 7 stitches to create 6 it doesn't make sense. __________________ MMario - *REAL* men knit LACE
 02-27-2008, 05:30 PM #5 Kalasin Casting On   Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts The pattern is called Adelle Stockings from "Sensual Knits", and yes, that is the way the chart is printed. So maybe it's wrong?
 02-27-2008, 05:32 PM #6 Abbily Instepping Out     Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 2,996 Thanks: 458 Thanked 1,603 Times in 1,120 Posts If you read the chart all the way across, it seems that the stitch numbers come out right. However I don't know how that would work with repeats... __________________ Carey Mommy to two wonderful girls "I don't have to conform to the vagaries of time and space, I'm a loony!" -Campbell Bain (David Tennant) 'Takin' Over the Asylum' OTN: Cabled Sweater, arm warmers, kids' clothes
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 Originally Posted by Kalasin The pattern is called Adelle Stockings from "Sensual Knits", and yes, that is the way the chart is printed. So maybe it's wrong?
it looks that way to me, the number do not add up.
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 02-27-2008, 05:45 PM #8 campbellmom549 Knitting the Flap     Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wow it's beautiful when it snows!, WV Posts: 293 Thanks: 39 Thanked 123 Times in 107 Posts How many sts are you casting on? __________________ Liz OTN: Sheldon the Turtle, Mom's Cashmere Gloves, Silver Bells Scarf, Globe Trotter Socks FO Gallery Mommy Moments Photography by Liz campbellmom549
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 Originally Posted by campbellmom549 How many sts are you casting on?
This is the foot part of the sock, so by this point, I have 24 stitches on the needle.

 02-28-2008, 12:10 AM #10 campbellmom549 Knitting the Flap     Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wow it's beautiful when it snows!, WV Posts: 293 Thanks: 39 Thanked 123 Times in 107 Posts Alright, I have spent the last hour searching the internet for a solution. (I'm sort of obsessive compulsive and can't let these kind of things go. It's like a game for me, and I MUST find a solution.) Anyway, about five minutes ago I found a page that had the pattern for nearly every kind of lace commonly found, and I saw the pattern for an Alternating Eyelet lace, and suddenly the answer clicked. Here's my opinion: whoever wrote the graph sucks. I charted it on paper following the basic principal of the pattern and got this answer. k24 8 k \ (o k o \$) o k 7 k24 6 k o (\$ o k o) / k 5 k24 4 k k (o \$ o k) o / 3 k24 2 \ o (k o \$ o) k k 1 That's 24 sts each row and you can see where the pattern alternates nicely. Look good/bad to you guys? __________________ Liz OTN: Sheldon the Turtle, Mom's Cashmere Gloves, Silver Bells Scarf, Globe Trotter Socks FO Gallery Mommy Moments Photography by Liz campbellmom549
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