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Old 03-11-2008, 04:15 PM   #1
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I am new to knitting lace, and am confused by the instruction "work four DJ (double joins) in corner A, etc. What is a double join? And, sorry to say, I will probably be back with more questions before I get knowlegable in this area. Thanks ahead of time to anyone who can help!
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Old 03-11-2008, 04:21 PM   #2
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Hard to tell out of context - but it sounds like you are knitting on an edge perpendicular to the body of the shawl?

So a "double join" would be connect to the body of the shawl *in the same stitch* on two consecutive inwards rows.

(or - alternatively, connect on the first of them and just knit the second inward row without connecting)
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:50 AM   #3
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OK, the instructions are for four DJ in corner of body (beginning an edge) and I wasn't sure exactly what was meant. Hopefully I will begin to figure it all out....no one in my area does lace, and I have to go on my own (with a lot of help from internet knitting friends).
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Old 03-12-2008, 10:02 AM   #4
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A lot of times when knitting on an edge you connect "every other row" to a stitch on the body of the shawl (normally on the "inward" rows)

At the corners, a frequent technique is to double up the number of edge rows per stitch on the body - "easing" the edge around the corner with the extra rows.

Does that make more sense?
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Old 03-13-2008, 08:29 AM   #5
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Oh, OK, yes it does. So I knit the edge separately, join every other stitch or so, and make 4 (or whatever is directed) joins in the corners to ease the edging around the corners!?! My book is showing separate sections, but don't you do enough repeats of the pattern to then attach to the whole body of the shawl at the same time?
I know this must be so basic that it has got to sound silly to you, but it is hard to find anyone who can answer even the most elementary questions I have...if you know of any good beginners books, or a place on line for kindergarten students of lace to learn, please don't hesitate to tell me. I just want so badly to learn the techniques...please don't give up on me.

Thank you Mario, for being kind enough want to help me.
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Old 03-13-2008, 10:31 AM   #6
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Again, I am working "blind" here - so my advice may not be on the mark.

What I have been talking about is when you "knit on" an edge to a body of work. As I said, normally it is joined at every other row *as you knit* the last stitch of the edge row is worked with one stitch from the body (as if it were a decrease) - depending on the pattern this may be a purl2tog, k2tog, skp, ssk....

At the corners you need more rows of the edge to ease around the corner. There are two really basic methods to do this

a) on two or more consecutive return rows of the edge the last stitch of the row gets worked together with the SAME stitch of the body.

b) on alternate return rows the last stich of the edge is worked *without* joining to the main body - thus doubling the number of edge rows per stitch worked on the main body of the knitting.

With either method it is usually done for a number of stitches on either side of the actual corner. If the edge repeat (for example) is 8 rows, it would not be uncommon to do this for 4 stitches on either side of the corner. Normally those 8 stitches would be two repeats of the edge pattern, but because of the ease you are building in it will take 4 repeats of the edge pattern to go around those 8 stitches.

Any clearer?
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For a gentleman working "blind" you "see" quite well! I think I have got it, and am going to try it all out now that it is fairly straight in my mind. Thank you so very much, and I will let you know in a few days how it seems to be going. I truly appreciate your willingness to try to understand my blatherings....keep your fingers crossed.....well, as long as you are not knitting at the time.
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