Originally Posted by Silver
All I'm saying is that it's easy to split hairs when making comparisons between this breed and that breed or why, how, when someone obtains a pet. I think we could go down the line and find a so-called "unethical" reason that led to each and every breed of dog or cat. I mean, is it really ethical to cross breed a dog to make it bigger and stronger just so it can do work for humans? Let alone the fact that that increased size leads to hip dysplasia. (Just making a point here, I don't think a Rottie is unethical!)
I would never pay $20K for a cat, so I'm certainly not propagating it's breeding, but I can't honestly say it's wrong when I don't have an issue with Rottweilers either. Just because the Rottie has been here longer, doesn't mean it's better.
I'm getting a puppy in 6 weeks. Is it wrong that I'm not getting it from a shelter? He's 2 weeks old, born to a friend's dog and they don't want to keep the pups, or sell them (even though they're pure bred), so I'm taking one.
All that matters to me is how the animal is treated, regardless of where it comes from.
OK, I think we are kind of agreeing but also kind of not
Anyway, what I think is wrong is to fool around with an established breed (cat or dog) if it isn't to make the breed better. By better I mean healthier, good temperament, good genetics, etc.
My dog is such a good example. One of the things that is RUINING Rotties is that they are being (and have been for a long while) bred by unethical breeders to be bigger than the standard. And you are very right about this causing orthopedic problems.
When "101 Dalmations" first came out years ago, Dalmations were bred fast and furious to keep up with the demand...they were the latest fad. Thousands ended up in shelters because of temperament problems.
Are you wrong to take your friend's puppy? No. I am sure you will give it a great home and lots of love.
Was your friend wrong to breed? YES. Being a pure breed is NOT enough.
Off the top of my head a Code of Ethics Breeder will/must do the following:
1. Health Clearances on sire and dam pertaining to breed - hips, elbows, eyes, heart. NOT cheap. They will also check on health clearances of the lines of both.
2. Ensure that both sire and dam are titled in either conformation, obedience, agility, schutzhund, etc, depending on the breed. Titled dogs not only are in the physical standard the also have a sound temperament. The best of the best makes the breed better.
3. The breeder will interview prospective buyers and pick the pup FOR them.
4. The breeder will guarantee the pup FOR LIFE. Say, you buy a pup, that turns out, when grown, is wired wrong and despite training is impossibly aggressive. The breeder WILL refund your money and take the dog back. The breeder will also put the dog down.
I bet some of you think it is bit "much". Considering the state we are in now regarding homeless animals and breed specific legislation no, it isn't.
Not even close.