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Old 09-24-2008, 02:29 PM   #1
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skeins of yarn
Please will some kind soul help me or even just sympathise with me.

I have only ever knitted with 'balls' of wool that unravel simply and easily as you knit them. I've just received an order of some very expensive yarn that is in a skein and I had no idea what to do with it and I think that I've messed it up entirely and turned it into a tangled web of rubbish. What should I have done to work with it? What is the best way, if any, of retrieving it?

I feel so upset because I looked forward so much to this yarn and I think that I may have wrecked it.

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Old 09-24-2008, 07:47 PM   #2
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Skeins are center pull.
Oy! if you have been unwrapping from the outside of the skein, then you are indeed very frustrated. I can't draw any predictions with out seeing the "tangle" you have. You may need to cut the skein from your work to untangle the skein. Then get the center tail and rejoin you work.

With new skeins, there are usually two ends visible. One (the beginning) comes from the center of the end of the skein. The other (the end) will be that which was wound around to form the skein. Sometimes the ending tail is acutally tucked in the opposite end of the skein from where the beginning tail emerges. Other times the beginning tail has been left hidden somewhere inside the skein. You will need to fish it out.

Poke your finger into one end (or each end in turn) and feel for the inside wrap, by which I mean the wrapping pattern of the skein. You may feel the tail crossing the wrapping diagonals; if so pull it out. Otherwise just hook an inner loop and pull a small clump or tangle out from the inside of the skein. This should be small and easy to untangle.

Continue using the yarn from the inside of the skein and it should not tangle until you have too little yarn left to form a proper skein. I find a small container like a bowl or a small bucket holds the dwindling skein rather nicely. While the skein still has the bulk of the yarn it can simply sit beside you and will not roll or move as you pull from the center.

I hope I have described it clearly enough to be of help to you. Good luck.


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Yes, you have my sympathy . I don't understand why the most expensive yarn isn't sold wound into balls or cakes-- except that it shows off what the dyer did. I did it with the first hank of $$$ yarn I ever had (a gift) and ended up with about 20 balls of it, after getting through all the knots. Here's what to do in the future. I assume perhaps it was the usual design of it coming in a twist? what you do is lay it out on a table, and untwist it. You'll have a giant loop, tied in several places. One of the ties will be the 2 ends of the yarn, tied together. The others will be scrap bits, and you can just cut those and discard them. Un-tie the 2 ends bit, and then keeping track of one end, you can put the loop over the back of a chair (a wooden chair-- if the chair is covered in fabric, the dye in the yarn may rub off onto it as you do this) or step into it and sit down and pull it up around your knees. If you have a friend or family member you can press into service, they can have it around their hands or arms, held apart. And then start winding away. You may very will hit some rough patches, where you have to stop and work it through a tangle. But basically it should work out okay.
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Jack - thankyou - I see where I went wrong now but, sadly, there wasn't an obvious thread from the inside and I'm doing my level best to find one now but I think I've made it into a bit of a dog's breakfast but I'll keep on looking
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Britty - I remember my mum and grandma doing that - I'm glad that it's not just me who has made the mistake. I feel quite cross that there are no instructions that come with yarn like this.
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Oh, there are at least two different skeins!
Heidi,

I had not though of the twisted skeins (these are call hanks) that Brittyknits mentioned. They would look like so .. Name:  twists.jpg
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While the skeins of which I was speaking should be center pull and would be wound back and forth as they go around like this ... Click image for larger version

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So, you will need to follow Britty's method or mine depending on the type of skein you have.

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Old 09-24-2008, 08:23 PM   #7
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yes, it's the twisted skein - and now it's a lump of twist. I'm going to leave it for tonight because I'm just getting grumpy but I shall unravel it slowly over the next few days, however I know now how to do it when I get a new skein. Many many thanks to the two of you - it's just nice to have someone there to commiserate with.
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Here is a Swift to hold a Skein.
Heidi,

Here is a swift that can be used to hold the twisted loop style skein while you wind into balls. Name:  swift.gif
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I didn't know (or remember) the proper name of it until I did a Google image search. I remember my mom has one and was delighted to show if off to me. I had no idea of its usefulness at the time. I can now more fully appreciate it!

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Yes, it's the twisted skein - Heidi
Oh, that is so twisted of them to do that!

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You don't need to purchase a swift to wind hanks of yarn. There are existing posts here, and elsewhere on the web, with homemade ideas on things to use you probably already have. (I use a large lamp shade.) You can use another person, the inverted legs of an office chair, etc. Even you own legs/knees. If you find the hank tangling, best to stop and rectify things immediately, or set it aside, so you don't compound the problem.

ETA: some existing threads (there's more if you Search 'swift'):

http://www.knittinghelp.com/forum/sh...ighlight=swift

http://www.knittinghelp.com/forum/sh...ighlight=swift

http://www.knittinghelp.com/forum/sh...ighlight=swift

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thanks - the thing that really gets to me is that I didn't even know I had to wind the damned thing - I'm not sure how I would have known. I just thought it was like a great big ball of wool.

They are really helpful links and thank you very much for them but they're only helpful when you know that you should look for them. That's not meant to sound as whiny as it does - it's not your fault that I didn't know about how these things work. But I really don't know how I could have known. Why do the producers not put a note with the yarn telling you these things?
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