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Old 10-29-2008, 10:44 AM   #1
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Hi,

I'm really new to crochet, and trying to teach myself from web pages and a small book. While I'm finding the individual stitches fine, I'm having real problems with understanding patterns, though I have found several useful web pages.

At the moment I am trying out a 'Christmas Hearts' pattern, which I love the look of. I think I have got to grips with line 1:
1 dc in 6 chain from hook, 5 dc, ch 4, 6 dc, ch 5, sl st in bottom of last dc.

Unfortunately I am scuppered at the 2nd line, which reads:

(begins by crocheting along the opposite side of the foundation chain) 4 dc (1 dc is replaced with ch 3), skip 4 , 4 dc, 9 dc in ch 5, 6 dc, 2 dc + ch 4 + 2 dc in ch 4, 6 dc, 9
dc in ch 5, sl st in top of first dc.

The bits I'm having trouble understanding are marked in bold.

Also, when it says that it begins crocheting along the opposite side of the foundation chain, does this mean you are just inserting your hook under a single loop, not the double loops you'd normally insert the hook under?

Any way, any help would be very gratefully recieved!

Thanks,
Anna

PS. I'm presuming that the '9 dc in ch 5' refers to doing 9dc in the 5 loops in the chain produced in the first row. Is that correct.

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Old 10-29-2008, 12:20 PM   #2
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What was the starting chain? I will guess 17 for 'in the round' with an L shaped first row.
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Hi,

I'm really new to crochet, and trying to teach myself from web pages and a small book.
Anna, Welcome to the darkside of the fiber.

I find woolcrafting.com to be a helpful crochet tutor and that link is to instructions for crochet in the round.

NexStitch has crochet videos that you may find helpful.

Originally Posted by AnnaStocks View Post
At the moment I am trying out a 'Christmas Hearts' pattern, which I love the look of. I think I have got to grips with line 1 [...] [u]nfortunately I am scuppered at the 2nd line, which reads:

(begins by crocheting along the opposite side of the foundation chain) 4 dc (1 dc is replaced with ch 3), skip 4 , 4 dc, 9 dc in ch 5, 6 dc, 2 dc + ch 4 + 2 dc in ch 4, 6 dc, 9
dc in ch 5, sl st in top of first dc.

The bits I'm having trouble understanding are marked in bold.
(Yoda's voice) Understand I do. Akward, the wording is.

I would translate that as follows:

"Turn to work in the other side of foundation chain, Chain 3 (counts as first dc) and dc in next 3 stitches." Skip 4, 4 dc in next 4 stitches (Note: you have made an inside corner in your L shaped chain), 9 dc in the ch 5 space (rounding out one end), 6 dc in next six stitches, [2 dc, ch 4, 2 dc] in the ch 4 space (this takes you around the outside corner of the L shaped work), 6 dc in next six sts., 9 dc in the ch 5 (rounding out the other end), and sl st to top of chain 3."

I added the parenthetic comments to help describe where you are in the shape. I found I didn't understand the pattern until I drew it out on paper and found it made an L shaped oval. It must be the center of the heart shape. That makes sense, doesn't it?

Originally Posted by AnnaStocks View Post
Also, when it says that it begins crocheting along the opposite side of the foundation chain, does this mean you are just inserting your hook under a single loop, not the double loops you'd normally insert the hook under?
Yes, you are working in the round (even though it is really more oval starting with a straight chain rather than a loop).

Can you tell I wrote that sentence before I finished the long explanation for the previous question? I was working backwards to figure out the foundation chain had 17 stitches and what the shape the stitches made.

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PS. I'm presuming that the '9 dc in ch 5' refers to doing 9dc in the 5 loops in the chain produced in the first row. Is that correct.
Not quite but you are close. You go under, not through, the stitches of the ch 5, that way you get all 9 dc evely spaced around the chain 5 spanning the end. Treat the whole chain as the top loops of one big open stitch. Both times or both end it is used to rounds out the end of the "bent" foundation chain.

Look for the V Stitch pattern for an example drawing on this stitch guide site. If you look close you see the stitches wrap around the chain and not through the chain stitiches.

I hope that helps.

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You are an absolute star, thank you very much! That makes a lot more sense now.
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Woo hoo, finished my first heart last night, so thanks again Jack.

Only bit I didn't like was the using of 3 chains to replace the DC, so I may fiddle with that a bit (it seemed very loose so there was a bit of a hole), so I may try changing that to just one or two chains).

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Congratulation.
Congratulations on finishing the first heart! You are welcome, Anna.

I am glad I could help.

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Hi Anna, Wish we could see the heart! I agree with you about the chains for the first dc. Two seems to work much better for me also.
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Hi Pam,

I've just realised that I've been having a different problem, without realising it, which may explain the 3 chains being too long!

I've been following the pattern as though it is in English notation, when it is actually in American. So I've been doing an English double crochet, when I should be doing an American Double, which would be an English treble. Now I'm following the pattern the correct way, the 3 chains make a lot more sense! It also explains why my heart seemed to be in different proportions to the pictures!

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Anna--that IS confusing! I'm so glad it's all working out now. Are the hearts Christmas ornaments? They sound pretty.
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