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Old 01-09-2009, 12:28 AM   #1
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Trouble with Yo twice
I'm trying to knit a doily for the first time using very small needles and fine crochet thread. The pattern calls for yo's and yo twice. I think for the "Yo twice" you just wrap your yarn around the right needle two times, but when I work the next row I'm getting way too many stitches. Can someone, please tell me how to work the Yo twice on the following row? Do I work both loops or work one loop and let the other one fall off the right needle-or do I do something else altogether? Thanks in advance for your help.
Stuck on a doily-and I'm only on row 2! I really need help!
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Old 01-09-2009, 12:51 AM   #2
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Does the YO twice occur like this - k1, yo twice? If so, that may mean you k1, yo, k1 yo. Or it could just be that you YO two times. On the row after, if the pattern doesn't tell you to drop the extra yo, you would knit or purl it and get more stiches. If you're working on a doily you may need the extra sts for increases.

It would help if you have a link to the pattern or just type that row and the following one (not the whole pattern) so we can see what's going on.
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Old 01-09-2009, 01:35 AM   #3
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Thank you!

The pattern can be found at http://www.knitting-and.com/knitting...17-doilies.htm In fact there are several free doily patterns there but the one I am trying is the Centerpiece with Vandyke and Flowerets. When I get done with the second row, instead of having 2 sts left unworked I have 5 sts left. At least that's how many I had the last time I tried it. I really would appreciate any help on this. I think the last time I tried it I worked one loop and dropped the other one. Thanks again in advance!
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Old 01-09-2009, 11:48 AM   #4
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Hmmm... You end the first rnd with 88 sts having gained 3 sts, but the 2nd round accounts for only 85 of them and gains 2 sts.
I think you should contact the site owner and ask for verification of the pattern, the numbers don't add up. Unless you're only supposed to knit one stitch of the dble yo, that might make sense.
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Old 01-09-2009, 05:32 PM   #5
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I come up with the same as you knitkydd. I get 89 stitches an increase of 4 stitches- one each for each of the double yos which would leave you with 5 unworked stitches.
I would contact the person posting the pattern.
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Old 01-10-2009, 10:29 AM   #6
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Thank you soooooooo much! I thought I was going crazy! I worked on that yesterday from 6:30 am until after 10:00 am and just could not get it to come out right! So I put it away for awhilw, but I have contacted the site owner and am waiting for her response. I will let you know what the outcome is. Thank you again! You saved my sanity (the little that I have, that is!)
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Old 01-12-2009, 10:22 AM   #7
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I have'nt looked at this closely - but wherever a Yo twice occurs before a p2tog try it with a single yo. Many older patterns will tell you to yo twice before a p2tog when what is meant is yo, yarn forward into purl position, p2tog
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Old 01-12-2009, 11:58 AM   #8
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That isn't the case here. This is the first row is occurs on -
K1M1, K3, SKP, (YO)x2, K2TOG, K3
and the other rounds are similar, it's between the skp and k2tog decs
Here's another example - [K1, (YO)x2]x3, SK2P

I think it's just supposed to have some large holes in it, it IS based on a doily pattern.
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:22 PM   #9
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?? I don't find an M1 or an skp in the directions for Centerpiece with VanDyke and flowerets on the page knitkydd linked too

1st row: sl 1 k23, k2tog, yo, k4, yo twice, p2tog, k13, (k2tog, yo) twice, k4, yo twice, p2tog, k11, k2tog, yo twice, k2tog, k10, yo twice, p2tog, k1, yo, k2.

2nd row: k4, yo twice, p2tog, k12, p1, k12, yo twice, p2tog, k21, yo twice, p2tog, k28, turn, leaving 2 sts unworked

edited - I got confused between who I was responding to and who had asked the question.
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:33 PM   #10
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I think I posted the instructions for the Spiral doily... oops. Got confused because someone was asking about the dble YOs on the spiral pattern in Ravelry.

But there's still large holes in the Vandyke doily as well.
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