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Old 03-10-2009, 10:25 PM   #1
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I'm nearly done with this cardi at last! The bottom is 1x ribbing, with three st st at the edge of each front. I'm considering trying out the invisible bind off that Gila Shoshany gave in the Beyond the Basics in the Fall 2008 Interweave Knits.

Two questions about this bind off:

1) Do you do this bind off from the right or the wrong side? I did a sample from the RS, and it seems to pull to the RS, which leads me to think that either a) I have the technique exactly backwards, or b) you're supposed to do it from the WS. Yes? No?

2) Is it possible to do this on st st as well as ribbing?

Thanks in advance for any directions, words of wisdom, advice, opinions or whatever!
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Old 03-11-2009, 02:51 PM   #2
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I've never heard of an invisible bind off..
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Old 03-11-2009, 03:15 PM   #3
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I think it's a variant of the 1x1 ribbing bind off on the video page here...it seems rather complicated in written directions, but I think Amy's video actually makes it seem quite easy. It's a sewn bind off -- the bind off makes the edge fold over very slightly. What I haven't figured out is whether you do it from the right side or the wrong side...it's a Kitchener Stitch variant, so you'd do it from the right side, wouldn't you? But my swatch curled towards the RS instead of the WS...aargh.

The more I look around, the more my head spins with all the possibilities. I may just do the bind-off from the videos at KH instead, but I think it might be worth trying out the tubular bind off, just to have learned it. It sounds fiddly, but the results are supposedly really worth it. (I'd probably do a sewn bind off, ala Elizabeth Zimmerman, for the three st st on each end of the row...)
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Old 03-11-2009, 09:30 PM   #4
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Hmmm... there's a Kitchener Bind Off that's in the Big Book of Knitting, or maybe it would be like a tubular BO. Those don't look like conventional bind offs.
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Old 03-12-2009, 06:41 AM   #5
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I'll have to look at that Kitchener Bind Off and see if it's it -- I think the LYS in Bexhill has Big Book of Knitting in their lending library. The Shoshony bind off appears to be a sewn, half Kitchener bind off -- it's as if you had the curved part of the tubular bind off, but not the back foundation rows. I think because it's lighter it would have been more suited to the Donegal Tweed Chunky I was using.

I tried the Shoshony sewn bind off twice, on a swatch, but was too unnerved by the fact that I was working from the RS and it kept rolling to the RS! Also, I couldn't seem to understand what it was I was doing and was just following the directions step by step, which annoys me. (I'm easily annoyed.) So I did the tubular instead, in the interests of learning about it and trying it -- I think it's perhaps a bit heavy, and it's probably not my proudest moment, as I took the advice of someone posting on a forum who said to knit loosely on it...forgetting that I already knit loosely. I probably should have done Amy's 1x1 sewn finish and left it at that. But...good enough, and maybe the looseness will be somewhat rectified in blocking...

Sleeves today (probably about three or four rows each), and I'm done! Yay!
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Old 03-12-2009, 10:17 AM   #6
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'Kay, I decided (again in the interests of making every project a place to learn techniques for a while) to use Amy's 1x1 BO on the sleeves, and I think it's the same bind-off as the Shoshony written one -- I just understand Amy's better! Because she doesn't have to cross every T and dot every I, because she's simply showing it to you, I think Amy's demo is much better than the Knits one, at least for the way I learn.

Serendiptously enough, I'm glad I did the tubular on the bottom of the sweater and am doing the 1x1 BO on the sleeves. I think the slightly heavier tubular helps hold down the cardi bottom...since Wrenna is a slightly flyaway sort of hemline, it helps.

Overall, I'm really really pleased at learning these two new (to me) bind-offs. They really give a beautiful finish to 1x1 ribbing!
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There is no such thing as an invisible bind off it will only show a little bit so do a regular bind off you won't notice a thing!!

Its probably easier too
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Actually, if you try the 1x1 rib bind off, you'll see that it does what it says it does -- it takes the ribbing around the edge of the bind off, so it looks like it continues around. It looks really nice. Try it!

I like the more normal chain bind off, but there's times when it doesn't look as nice as one of the many other bind offs out there.
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