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Old 05-26-2009, 05:17 PM   #1
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PROJECT: Pullover sweater for 12 month old, using Alpaca Sport Weight and Size 3 needles.

Mock Waffle Stitch Pattern:
Row 1 (RS) Knit
Row 2 Purl
Row 3 P1, *k1, p1. Repeat from *across row
Row 4 Purl
Row 5 Knit
Row 6 Repeat row 3
Repeat rows 1-6 for pattern

Sleeves:
Inst#1. CO 37 sts.
Inst#2. Work even in patt for 1"
Inst#3. Working added sts into patt, inc 1 st each end every 4th row 17 times - 71 sts.
Inst#4. Work even until sleeve measures 10"
Inst#5. BO all sts.

OKAY, Here Are The Questions:
Q#1: Increases that occur on an "all knit" rows (rows 1 & 5): Type of increase: an MIT added about 1 inch from each end? Or should I use k1f&b about 1 inch from each end? (I hate k1f&b, but not as much as p1f&b - too tight, too time consuming, too easy to drop a stitch.)

Q#2: Increases that occur on "all purl" rows (rows 2 & 4): Type of increase: p1f&b about 1 inch from each end? Do I have any other option?

Q#3: Increases that occur on "all mock waffle stitch pattern rows" (rows 3 & 5):
Q#3-A: When adding the increase on each end, I should choose the easiest for me, whether that is a knit increase or purl increase?
Q#3-B: If increase st. added about 1 inch from each end, this will disrupt the pattern (of P1,*k1, p1) on that row, won't it? I would have 2 purls (or 2 knits) together when each stitch is to alternate.
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Old 05-26-2009, 11:15 PM   #2
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I'm guessing that this little pattern is a worked over a multiple of 2+1. An odd number in other words. So that you have a couple rows of st st and then a line of alternating purls and knits to make line of alternating bumps. Then a couple more rows of st st and then more of the alternating bumps but offset between the last ones. Is this right?

If so here is what I tried and works fine. I would make all the increases the same way. As simple backward loops placed over the right hand needle. And I would not put the increases 1 inch in. They are usually worked 1 or 2 stitches in from the edge. I'd work one stitch as it should be worked on the row, throw on the backward loop on the right needle and continue on as needed. When stitches get added that change the pattern, just look at the last row of bumps and line the next ones up between the last ones.
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Originally Posted by MerigoldinWA View Post
I'm guessing that this little pattern is a worked over a multiple of 2+1. An odd number in other words. So that you have a couple rows of st st and then a line of alternating purls and knits to make line of alternating bumps. Then a couple more rows of st st and then more of the alternating bumps but offset between the last ones. Is this right?.
Ummm, I Think, Yes? K row, P row, alternating P & K, P row, K row, alternating P & K. Rows 1-6 make a pattern (not familiar w/ 'mulitple of 2+1, sorry)

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If so here is what I tried and works fine. I would make all the increases the same way. As simple backward loops placed over the right hand needle. And I would not put the increases 1 inch in. They are usually worked 1 or 2 stitches in from the edge. I'd work one stitch as it should be worked on the row, throw on the backward loop on the right needle and continue on as needed. When stitches get added that change the pattern, just look at the last row of bumps and line the next ones up between the last ones.
I'm with you on everything but the last sentence.
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The multiple thing----most patterns are worked over some number multiplied. Like K1, P1 ribbing is any multiple of 2. You can work it over 2,4,6,8,10,12, etc. stitches. And K2, P2 ribbing is a multiple of 4. It can be worked over 4,8,12,16,20,24,28 etc. And some patterns are worked over a certain multiple but the way they have written the pattern you have to add another number of stitches for everything to come out right. In this case any multiple of 2 with one more added. Or it could be like a multiple of 8+3 so then it would be 8+3, 16+3, 24+3, 32+3 and so on.

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I'm with you on everything but the last sentence.
When you said that did you mean you agree with everything I said but the last sentence or you understand everything but the last sentence?

Assuming the latter.....

The pattern comes out like this:
v n v n v n v row 4
v v v v v v v row 3
v v v v v v v row 2
n v n v n v n row 1
I'm hoping these are lined up with each other an 'n' is a purl stitch, and a 'v' is a knit stitch. You start with the bottom row and knit upward. The first stitch in the first row is a purl (n) and then they alternate across. Then you have two rows of stockinette stitch that all look like knits on the right side. On the next row you work it the same way you did the 1st row, starting with a purl, but you do it from the wrong side so that on the front it looks like you started with a knit (v) and worked alternately across.

So the next time you need to do an alternating row (row 3 or 5) look at the last one and do them the opposite. So if it the last row was:
n v n v n v
You want it to end up (on the right side)with knits over purls and purls over knits from the last row you did with the bumps. So you want knits above the bumps (the purls) and purls above the knits (the smooth vees). So just study your knitting and make the stitches line up the way they need to on the right side.

You probably already did a back and front of this sweater so you should know what it looks like, make it look like that. Any slight wobble in the pattern will be right at the underarm seam and won't show.
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