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Old 07-08-2009, 04:34 PM   #1
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Increase row causing pattern 'shift'
blue sky alpacas KID'S SWEATER

Mock Waffle Stitch Pattern:
Row 1 (RS) Knit
Row 2 Purl
Row 3 P1, *k1,p1 (repeat from * across row)
Row 4 Purl
Row 5 Knit
Row 6 Repeat row 3

Sleeve Instructions:
Working added sts into pattern, increase 1 stitch each end every 4th row 17 times - 71 stitches.

On the increase rows, which have all ended up being either a purl row or a k1,p1 row, I am doing a p1f&b at the 1st stitch in and then again at the next to last stitch.

BUT somehow my pattern is ‘shifting’ as I do an increase row and that is my problem.

Ideas?
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Old 07-08-2009, 04:57 PM   #2
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Are you knitting flat or in the round? Do you have a link?
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Old 07-08-2009, 04:59 PM   #3
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Are you knitting flat or in the round? Do you have a link?
It is knitted flat. There is a completed sweater shown on ravelry: blue sports alpaca KID'S SWEATER http://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/kids-sweater-2

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Old 07-08-2009, 06:43 PM   #4
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After you've increased sts, don't start your rows the same as written. It might help to leave the edge sts in stockinette, and then after the first inc, you would start the pattern on the 2nd st. After the next inc, start it on the 3rd st, though after 3 incs, you'd be able to start the row on the first st again.
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Old 07-08-2009, 07:23 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by suzeeq View Post
After you've increased sts, don't start your rows the same as written. It might help to leave the edge sts in stockinette, and then after the first inc, you would start the pattern on the 2nd st. After the next inc, start it on the 3rd st, though after 3 incs, you'd be able to start the row on the first st again.
You will need to walk me through this.
Do I make the increase on the first & last stitch of the row? or do I do it on the 2nd stitch and the next to last stitch (which is how I was doing it)?
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It might help to leave the edge sts in stockinette
The pattern edge sts is: k,p,p,p,k,p and I should change that to k,p,k,p,k,p.
On all purl increase rows, I just purl across. I am assuming it is not the purl increase rows that are creating the offset in the pattern, but the p1,*k1,p1 rows.
On the p1,*k1,p1 rows I
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start the pattern on the 2nd st.
If I am increasing on the 2nd live stitch, then it would be the 3rd stitch that I start the pattern with. I've been knitting the 3rd stitch so that would change to a purl.
........ I'm getting confused!
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Old 07-08-2009, 08:27 PM   #6
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Basically, you just work the new sts into the pattern. I'm thinking the edge sts would be in a seam, so you could pretty much do them in stockinette and it wouldn't show much. Row 3 is the only patterned row, everything else is a knit or purl, so that's the only one you need to worry about. Look down at the last row 3 you did and on the current row, do the sts the same, it's just that you'll have to go 'backwards' a bit at the start of the row to include the new sts in the pattern.
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Row 3 And Row 6 are pattern.
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Oh yeah, but it says to repeat row 3 for row 6. So as I said, look at the previous pattern row, make sure the knits and purls will be lined up in the same column, and do the new sts in whatver comes before the repeat.
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Oh yeah, but it says to repeat row 3 for row 6. So as I said, look at the previous pattern row, make sure the knits and purls will be lined up in the same column, and do the new sts in whatver comes before the repeat.
Thank you for being patient. I don't completly understand how the sts are making the pattern so it will be difficult to analyze it in that way. This isn't a stockinette stitch. It runs knit, purl, purl>knit, purl, knit, purl>knit. I would need to understand how the mock waffle is made to know what was needed next. And that would take awhile to figure out. Unless, you know?
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Have you knit a bit of it in that pattern? If not, then CO about 20-24 sts and knit up a sample to see what it looks like. After about 12 rows, then do increases and maybe that will help you see how the new sts need to fit in. I'm not very good at explaining it, but I can 'see' it when I'm knitting.
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