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Old 03-05-2010, 11:55 PM   #1
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2 qs: Stitch to use in a gauge swatch and large loops at end of row.
I'm a very new beginner so forgive if these questions are excessively basic.

I've done some experimental swatches, a scarf and hat for my daughter and a garter stitch headband for me (to keep my hair out of my eyes and my headphones in my hears) and am ready to try something a bit more ambitious--a sweater for my own wear.

First step (after aquiring materials) as I understand it is a gauge swatch to match the knitting needles to the requirements of the pattern. Well and good but I wonder if I need to make that swatch using a particular stitch such as, say, the "predominant" stitch in the pattern. There are two patterns I'm looking at that are listed as "easy." One uses stockinette stitch and is a more loosely fit sweater and the other uses a ribbed stitch and makes a more form fitting sweater. Do I use the particular stitch that is most of the pattern in checking my gauge or do I just use something like garter stitch?

Second question: When I knit a row I usually find that the last stitch left on the lefthand needle has a significantly larger loop than the other stitches. The result is that my edges tend to look a little "ragged." Somehow I don't think this should be right but I don't know what's causing it let alone how to fix it.

Help please?
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Old 03-06-2010, 02:48 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by dburkhead View Post
I wonder if I need to make that swatch using a particular stitch such as, say, the "predominant" stitch in the pattern.

Second question: When I knit a row I usually find that the last stitch left on the lefthand needle has a significantly larger loop than the other stitches. The result is that my edges tend to look a little "ragged." Somehow I don't think this should be right but I don't know what's causing it let alone how to fix it.
Yes, the rule of thumb is to make the swatch in the pattern.

On the loose loops, tighten up on the first stitch you knit in each row. That becomes the loop on the far left end when you turn the work.

About the sweaters. They will have very different fit.

I think the stockinette would be easier as a first project. Measure a sweater armpit to armpit that fits her well. Use that to choose which size sweater to make. Most pattern have a line drawing with the actually knitted dimensions for comparison.

One the ribbed one, it is probably made smaller than the body & stretched for fit.
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Old 03-06-2010, 02:57 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by Abby123 View Post
Yes, the rule of thumb is to make the swatch in the pattern.

On the loose loops, tighten up on the first stitch you knit in each row. That becomes the loop on the far left end when you turn the work.

About the sweaters. They will have very different fit.

I think the stockinette would be easier as a first project. Measure a sweater armpit to armpit that fits her well. Use that to choose which size sweater to make. Most pattern have a line drawing with the actually knitted dimensions for comparison.

One the ribbed one, it is probably made smaller than the body & stretched for fit.
Actually the sweater is for me this time. I'm big on "comfy" rather than "fashionable" (although I'll cooperate to the extent of wearing the dark colors my wife prefers me to wear) so the mistakes likely to be in a first "big" project don't bother me too much.
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Okay, you mentioned a daughter & I was picturing a ribbed summer tank top.

So the sweater is for yourself. The idea is the same. Measure a sweater that fits you well. And use that to choose the size.

I think raglans are nice on guys. You can work the sweater in the round (so you have no seams to do.)
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Old 03-07-2010, 05:36 PM   #5
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(although I'll cooperate to the extent of wearing the dark colors my wife prefers me to wear)
This is a first for me. I usually hear the story of men only wanting to wear the dark colors (my DH, DS and DSILs) and the women wishing they could knit them something a little more "fun". Too bad your wife doesn't let/want you to branch out a little.

Some patterns will tell you clearly what stitch to use for your swatch. Sometimes that is St st even if the pattern has a pattern stitch, cables, etc. But in some of those cases it will say "over pattern stitch". I love those that give gauge over St st and have trouble sometimes getting the gauge to work over "pattern". In the case of ribbing it can be a bit confusing too. If they want you to knit in ribbing do they want you to measure completely unstretched, or stretched, and to what degree. Some patterns will say "slightly stretched". One man's slightly might not be the same as the next man's. :-) If it is ribbing and they don't say what stitch to get gauge in, it would seem logical that they wanted it in ribbing, but it could be they want St st, it is kind of the default gauge stitch. (A story about gauge is I had a sweater one of DD's wanted me to make with fancy cables. Pattern said to get gauge "over pattern stitch". I had the right weight yarn, and I never could get gauge "over pattern stitch". If I had accomplished gauge it would have been a terrible fabric for the sweater. I found one lady on Ravelry who had made the sweater. She said she did gauge over St st and that worked for her. The math didn't work out that if I did that it would fit, [but it might have in reality] so I abandoned the whole idea and made something else.)

I made a top for one of my daughters that was all in K1, P1 ribbing and the schematic showed the top (I can't remember details) measuring say 14" across one side. It also gave a gauge, can't remember what, but I got confused because if I made the gauge they said the piece was measuring like 9" across (it was way different than the schematic). I tired different things but if I got a measurement of 14 inches across like it said it would have fit a huge lady and my DD was a tiny little thing (adult DD). It turns out the schematic showed how big the person was not the sweater. They did want it 9" and it stretched "a lot". That really aggravated me. A schematic should show the actual measurement of the sweater, this one did not.

So be careful and use your head if things seem wrong, they might be. LOL
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