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Old 03-08-2010, 10:52 AM   #1
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Using two strands of yarn?
I need advice. I'm knitting a throw I found on Lion Brand Yarn and I'm obviously doing something wrong. It's the Magic Carpet Throw and some blocks look like Fair Isle patterns.

The questions is, I did the swatch with one strand and it came out to 4" as required (after I upped the needle size from 7 to 9). When I work the square with two strands of yarn it's no longer the proper size. I've started the same square for the third time and it still isn't the proper size even trying to keep the yarn very loose. Anyone have a suggestion or comment? (yarn is wool ease by Lion Brand seems to have a lot of give). I did email Lion and the only response I got was the swatch should be the same size with one or two strands. I'd like to know what else I can do. The pattern has a border so at this point I'll be making it a little wider!

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Old 03-08-2010, 11:30 AM   #2
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Lion is wrong, a single stranded yarn and the same yarn doubled will not come out to the same gauge, even if you go down in needle size, though it will be a lot tighter. Why double strand the yarn, just knit it single stranded.

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Old 03-08-2010, 11:43 AM   #3
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Thank you Suzeeq

It's not actually double knit it's a pattern using two colors. Maybe I wasn't clear. It's single yarn per stitch but it may be green for two stitches and blue for three all the way across. I've just never had a problem with my gauge so I didn't do a swatch initially, did later. I'm up two sizes on the needle and don't want to go up anymore. Lion sent another suggestion of trying other needles because metal, wood, or plastic will give some people a different gauge. I think I'll continue on and increase the border when I'm done. I can't help think there's a mistake in needle size or the number of stitches needed for each square.
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Old 03-08-2010, 11:56 AM   #4
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I just skimmed the pattern and didn't see where it says the finished size of the squares (I use the term 'square' loosely - I think they are taller then they are wide). I see 9.75" tall but not how wide they are supposed to be.

Did you finish a 'square' yet? either a solid color one or a 2-3 color one?
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Old 03-08-2010, 12:13 PM   #5
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Marilyn, I have not finished a square yet, spent most of my time ripping out and redoing. I started a patterned square (square 1) for the third time last night but I'm not that far in. I noticed also that they didn't give a finished square size which would have been very helpful. I'm assuming each should be +/-9 1/2 inches since the border (one side) is 1 1/2 inches. I got a little closer to 9 inches with my third try last night. I'll probably need to adjust the squares with one color since I can get the gauge correct with one strand. Just threw me since I've never had to wing it on a pattern. Maybe it should say expert instead of "experienced".

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Old 03-08-2010, 05:58 PM   #6
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With Fair Isle you carry the unused color yarn along the back (purl side). These floats can get pulled too tight. And it will make the block narrower.

Although I generally work any pattern on circulars. Straight needles give me better tension in multicolored work.
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Oh I think I see. You should do the swatch with 2 colors of yarn so you can tell how it works out when you actually knit the block. Probably you can use a smaller needle size.
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Thank you everyone. Abby, I tried to loosen up last night as I worked on the square. The yarn has a lot of give, that doesn't help. I'm close enough at this point and won't be ripping it out again. Several blocks are one color so I'll have to adjust those.
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I just read over your post again. Are you working Fair Isle, a multicolored work done on a single layer of fabric alternating colors? Or are you doing double knit, a double thick layer of work. Like a sandwich with both wrong side in the middle?

If you are doing double knitting, you need to use a smaller needle than the same pattern worked in one layer. Because every two stitches make up one front & one the back, you have more space between adjacent stitches (on the same side.)

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It's not double knit it's Fair Isle.
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