Harvest Shawl Test Knit

[MMario]

I can't answer for why it was written this way...

but I can tell you from experience; working a pattern repeat in the waste yarn will make it MUCH easier to work the first couple rows of the edge in the working yarn.

[Dimpledapple]

My opinion is people will realize the "p2tog tbl" is a "single join", without needing further explanation

and all you need do is explain that a "double join" is working two consecutive single joins (for example, rows 1 and 3) into the same center panel stitch.

What do others think?

I agree! I've never knit on a border so I was completely lost, but that's clearly a reflection of my lack of experience. Then I spent some quality time with Google and figured it out. I think you're very clear and I really appreciate the details such as "= one pattern repeat" as well as the mentioning of short and long sides. I do think it will be very helpful to other knitted-on-border-newbies if you explain the double join.

[lissaplus2]

Ok so should i put something like this.........

Single Join: One join to one stitch of center panel.
Purl last border stitch together with one stitch from center panel through the back loop = 2 border rows joined to one center panel stitch.

Double Join: Two joins to one stitch of center panel.
Work a single join, and on next joining row, work a second single join in same stitch. = 4 border rows joined to one stitch of center panel.

..........in the abbreviations? or somewhere else, maybe somewhere around the border instructions, would be more handy?

or are those descriptions too wordy? or do they explain things at all?

[Crycket]

Ok...few questions...

Does one have to work a pattern in waste yarn? and should there be wording about right and wrong side facing...

Like one is picking up at row 13 of the side, with right side facing?

[lissaplus2]

Does one have to work a pattern in waste yarn?

i assume your talking about the border...no. you can work half a pattern in waste yarn. but you do need a few rows of light and then row 12 in dark. But I HIGHLY recomend you do the entire pattern repeat. It gives you practice for the real thing and you will have a much easier time during grafting. other than those two things...there is no purpose in doing the entire repeat.

and should there be wording about right and wrong side facing...
Like one is picking up at row 13 of the side, with right side facing?

your right. I will fix that.

[lissaplus2]

Knitted on Border: With DPNs and light color contrasting cotton yarn, co 18 and work Rows 1-11 of Border chart; all in the light cotton yarn. With dark color contrasting cotton yarn, work row 12 attaching last border stitch and the marked center panel stitch with right side facing, with a p2tog tbl. (This is to aid you with grafting.) All the cotton yarn will be removed after the grafting.
*With working yarn, work Border chart 26 times or until you have six (6) center panel stitches left. Work Corner A.

Is this what your talking about Crycket?

Becky how was the knit night?

Kathy how are you?

[Dimpledapple]

Ok, so to be ridiculously specific:

• cast on and knit one border repeat (rows 1-11) with light colored yarn without attaching it to center panel
• knit row 12 of that first border repeat in dark colored yarn and attach it (single join) to row 13 of center panel where the marker was placed
• continue border with regular/working yarn, first single join with working yarn being end of row 2 of border and selvedge stitch on row 14 of center panel
• work border all the way around the shawl up until the dark color yarn, stopping after row 11 on that last border repeat (border pattern that was knit with light colored yarn will just be kind of dangling off of row 12, right?)
• graft by mimicking dark colored yarn stitches with working yarn
• block
• throw a party when you're done with the fabulous shawl!

Do I have it right?

[lissaplus2]

•cast on and knit one border repeat (rows 1-11) with light colored yarn without attaching it to center panel
Yes

•knit row 12 of that first border repeat in dark colored yarn and attach it (single join) to row 13 of center panel where the marker was placed
Yes

•continue border with regular/working yarn, first single join with working yarn being end of row 2 of border and selvedge stitch on row 14 of center panel
Yes but the reason for the marker was because it will be difficult to keep track of the row numbers...you would just join first row 2 of working yarn with the next stitch up from the marked, and now joined stitch.

•work border all the way around the shawl up until the dark color yarn, stopping after row 11 on that last border repeat (border pattern that was knit with light colored yarn will just be kind of dangling off of row 12, right?)
Yes

•graft by mimicking dark colored yarn stitches with working yarn
Yes

•block
Yes, block the crap outta it.

•throw a party when you're done with the fabulous shawl!
Only if you invite all of us!! and theres chocolate involved...LOL

[Dimpledapple]

Yes, that marker is awesome. It's definitely our friend! And of course you're all invited to the post-shawl party where we'll not only have tons of chocolate, but plenty of wine as well Oh, by the way, I finished my 7th repeat today! Halfway done!!

[lissaplus2]

Ok everybody.........

Look at post #233 and throw your opinion at me. (and any pics you have of your current work...)


Ps...Im ready to start another co-op...anyone wanna get one goin?